Targaryens aren't super human

[Bright Blue Eyes]

... none of them survived the Doom. Luckily Daenys the Dreamer, a Targaryen, foresaw the Doom and saved her family.

But I'm sure all those lost Valyrians had connections to their dragons too. They were dragonlords, afterall. Doesn't change the fact that they are dead and so the only living people with a innate connection to dragons are the Targaryens and those with their blood.

And all the bastards and hunchbacked relations of the Dragonlords surviving in Volantis and Lys and all the other Free Cities? The Baratheons and Velaryons and Arryns and Hightowers and Plumms and Martells and god knows how many offshot branches of the Targs themselves?

Is it the name that makes them special? Purely the name? Can't be the blood, they share that with literally millions of people.

[Balaurderaa]

Quentyn Martell had some Targaryen in him (assuming they are the same generation he and Aegon would be 6th cousins) but he still got burned by Rhaegal

And what about people like Stannis, Shireen, Aurane Waters? They've all got Targaryen in them several generations back-do they all possess the same abilities?

[Lord Ravenstark]

Quentyn Martell had some Targaryen in him (assuming they are the same generation he and Aegon would be 6th cousins) but he still got burned by Rhaegal

And what about people like Stannis, Shireen, Aurane Waters? They've all got Targaryen in them several generations back-do they all possess the same abilities?

Aurane is a bastard of a Valyrian noble house.

If you call "bidding through magic" a natural connection...

[Ruby Chevrolet]

Quentyn Martell had some Targaryen in him (assuming they are the same generation he and Aegon would be 6th cousins) but he still got burned by Rhaegal

And what about people like Stannis, Shireen, Aurane Waters? They've all got Targaryen in them several generations back-do they all possess the same abilities?

The theory is that the Targaryens married each other to maximize the chances that the children would inherit the family powers. Marrying non-Targaryens diluted the gene pool and weakened or eliminated those powers. So Quentyn didn't get them. Aegon (if he is real) might not have them either as his mother was not a Targaryen even though his father was Rhaegar.

[RumHam]

As you say, it is not out yet. I look forward to reading it when it is but meanwhile I think you'll appreciate that I can't take your word for it unless you are willing to demonstrate how you got an advance copy.

So now that it is out: (fairly major plot spoilers for The Princess and The Queen)

Those closest to the dragons did not live to tell the tale. Those farther off could not see, for the flame and smoke. It was hours before the fires guttered out. But from those ashes, only Vhagar rose unharmed. Meleys was dead, broken by the fall and ripped to pieces upon the ground. And Sunfyre, that splendid golden beast, had one wing half torn from his body, whilst his royal rider had suffered broken ribs, a broken hip, and burns that covered half his body. His left arm was the worst. The dragonflame had burned so hot that the king’s armor had melted into his flesh.

King Aegon II did not die, though his burns brought him such pain that some say he prayed for death. Carried back to King’s Landing in a closed litter to hide the extent of his injuries, His Grace did not rise from his bed for the rest of the year. Septons prayed for him, maesters attended him with potions and milk of the poppy, but Aegon slept nine hours out of every ten, waking only long enough to take some meagre nourishment before he slept again. None was allowed to disturb his rest, save his mother the Queen Dowager and his Hand, Ser Criston Cole.

So now we've got:

-Aegon II

-Rhaenyra ( as others have pointed out, dragons cook their meat before eating it. Also confirmed in The Princess and The Queen.)

-Aerion

-Various Targaryens at Summerhall (Crackpot theories notwithstanding)

-Viserys

That should be enough examples to make it clear that Targaryens can burn. They maybe "superhuman" in other ways, like prophetic dreams and possibly an affinity for dragon-riding.

[Ygrain]

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[ckal]

Dany is sick as hell in the end of ADWD and GRRM has said specifically that her dragon hatching incident was a one time magical thing. He has also confirmed on many occasions that Targaryens are not immune to fire etc.

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

So now that it is out: (fairly major plot spoilers for The Princess and The Queen)

So now we've got:

-Aegon II

-Rhaenyra ( as others have pointed out, dragons cook their meat before eating it.)

-Aerion

-Various Targaryens at Summerhall (Crackpot theories notwithstanding)

-Viserys

That should be enough examples to make it clear that Targaryens can burn. They maybe "superhuman" in other ways, like prophetic dreams and possibly an affinity for dragon-riding.

Don't forget that Dany get's burned by Drogon at the end of aDwD. She mentions the burns on her hands several times I believe. :D

[devilrob6]

Jon gets burned too, when saving Mormont from the wights. It's claimed by many that he has Targ blood.

[Kat]

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