who will be the heir to the iron throne if tommen and myrcella die?

[Bannerman of Winterfell]

it is probable according to cersei's prophecy. But if they die who will be the king? stannis would be the heir but the tyrells and lannisters will never make him king, nor can the tyrells just make themselves king by force. Who should be by law the heir to the iron throne? ser kevan's sons? or tyrion?

[Blutraven]

By law, Stannis. Mace will probably try and grab the throne for the Tyrells if they both die though.

[Bright Blue Eyes]

Free for all civil war.

[The Sleeper]

Free for all civil war.

In other words, business as usual.

[Kienn]

Whoever calls dibs first.

[Cato.the.Elder]

If the Tyrells intend to feign some legitimity maybe they can legimize one of Robert's bastards (Gendry?), marry him to Margaery and use him as a puppet.

But I don't think they will have the chance: the days of the Lannister-Tyrell aliance are counted, and we will soon see Aegon on the throne.

[The Drunkard]

They're never going to recognize Stannis' claim, and I'm sure they could get the Faith to 'legally' disinherit him for being a demon-worshiper if they want an official reason. After Stannis you'll have a bunch of people with minor ties to the Baratheons that'll become potential candidates, but no one will really give a damn about them unless they serve the interests of those most powerful. Then you need to factor in Aegon running around in the South, Euron being insane in the west, and an angry dragon-lady rocking up in the east with an assorted army of Unsullied, Dothraki, Ironborn, freed slaves and whatever else. Basically:

Free for all civil war.

[DreamSongs]

The throne would go to Stannis, assuming he can claim and hold it.

[Sansa_Stark]

In other words, business as usual.

lmao

[Ser Pounce FTW]

The throne would go to Stannis, assuming he can claim and hold it.

It WOULD have gone to Stannis however his war against the sitting king has made him a traitor so he will not get it through the normal succession manner. He'll have to win it in order to get it. Ironic, that. Had he waited, it would have probably been all his without lifting a finger but now it will likely never be his.

[Stan the Man Baratheon]

It WOULD have gone to Stannis however his war against the sitting king has made him a traitor so he will not get it through the normal succession manner. He'll have to win it in order to get it. Ironic, that. Had he waited, it would have probably been all his without lifting a finger but now it will likely never be his.

It would still go to him, and he is not branded a traitor by everyone yet. Well who could've forseen it.

[Sansa_Stark]

P much all of them realm is traitors these days, I don't think its that big of a deal as long as the people calling you out aren't in power anymore.

[Iona]

It would still go to him, and he is not branded a traitor by everyone yet. Well who could've forseen it.

Hmm, the moment someone rebels against the IT they become traitors, there's no need for a separate neon sign to be planted on top of the Red Keep. :) In Stannis' case it's interesting that even if Cersei loses her trial, the Faith won't take Stannis' side since the High Sparrow regards him as a devil worshipper.

[Matoro]

But in Stannis' case he was right all along. And he rebelled because of that. If Cersei and her childern die/are disinherited, it proves the fact that Stannis was always the rightful king.

It would be pretty awkward situation. Either guys in KL should admit they were wrong and Stan is the king, or claim he lost his claim after rebellion and taking other god.

Since Stannis probably won't be accepted by the Faith, they'd need to find someone else.

How about Shireen? There isn't non-bastard male Baratheons we know of, and Shireen is a cousin of Myrcella.

If IT uses still Targaryen heritage system (female will never inherit the throne if there is ANY male relative alive), the heir would be from family Estermont, through marriage of Cassana Estermont and Steffon Baratheon. Lord Estermont has two sons - Eldon and Lomas - and a daughter, Cassana.

Cassana and Steffon drowned, like we all remember.

Lomas Estermont is currently defending Storm's End in the name of Stannis Baratheon, so he is a rebel. His son Andrew is with Stannis and is considered to be absolutely loyal to Stannis. So, both of them are traitors.

Eldon Estermont fought initially for Renly Baratheon, but then switched to Stannis' camp and after Blackwater he swore for Joffrey. Both his son Aemon and greatson Alyn were pardoned with him.

So closes alive male relative of Tommen Baratheon would be, excluding Stannis Baratheon and other traitors, Eldon Estermont. All hail king Eldon, first of his name?

[Stan the Man Baratheon]

But in Stannis' case he was right all along. And he rebelled because of that. If Cersei and her childern die/are disinherited, it proves the fact that Stannis was always the rightful king.

It would be pretty awkward situation. Either guys in KL should admit they were wrong and Stan is the king, or claim he lost his claim after rebellion and taking other god.

Since Stannis probably won't be accepted by the Faith, they'd need to find someone else.

How about Shireen? There isn't non-bastard male Baratheons we know of, and Shireen is a cousin of Myrcella.

If IT uses still Targaryen heritage system (female will never inherit the throne if there is ANY male relative alive), the heir would be from family Estermont, through marriage of Cassana Estermont and Steffon Baratheon. Lord Estermont has two sons - Eldon and Lomas - and a daughter, Cassana.

Cassana and Steffon drowned, like we all remember.

Lomas Estermont is currently defending Storm's End in the name of Stannis Baratheon, so he is a rebel. His son Andrew is with Stannis and is considered to be absolutely loyal to Stannis. So, both of them are traitors.

Eldon Estermont fought initially for Renly Baratheon, but then switched to Stannis' camp and after Blackwater he swore for Joffrey. Both his son Aemon and greatson Alyn were pardoned with him.

So closes alive male relative of Tommen Baratheon would be, excluding Stannis Baratheon and other traitors, Eldon Estermont. All hail king Eldon, first of his name?

I would lol if Eldon comes to power

[Iona]

But in Stannis' case he was right all along. And he rebelled because of that. If Cersei and her childern die/are disinherited, it proves the fact that Stannis was always the rightful king.

It would be pretty awkward situation. Either guys in KL should admit they were wrong and Stan is the king, or claim he lost his claim after rebellion and taking other god.

Since Stannis probably won't be accepted by the Faith, they'd need to find someone else.

How about Shireen? There isn't non-bastard male Baratheons we know of, and Shireen is a cousin of Myrcella.

If by disinherited you mean that Cersei is found guilty then Shireen won't be Myrcella's cousin... :)

[Blutraven]

Actually, could the High Sparrow make a power grab, he has an army inside KL and any attack on him could cause the smallfolk to rise up?

[Stan the Man Baratheon]

Actually, could the High Sparrow make a power grab, he has an army inside KL and any attack on him could cause the smallfolk to rise up?

Hmm but high sparrow won't sit on IT, it would be either of tyrells or Aegon arriving in time as a Messiah

[Iona]

Actually, could the High Sparrow make a power grab, he has an army inside KL and any attack on him could cause the smallfolk to rise up?

I can't see him crowning himself, but I wouldn't be surprised if he'd one day make an appearance in front of the Great Sept of Baelor and announce that while fasting, the Crone raised her lantern to shed light on the succession and gave him a vision of the new king/queen.

[Ser Pounce FTW]

It would still go to him, and he is not branded a traitor by everyone yet. Well who could've forseen it.

He is most definitely branded as a traitor by all of Westeros, especially after he sent those letters out denouncing the legitimacy of the sitting king. Unless there is a confession - and this is not impossible given Jaime's desire to "do the right thing" - he will always be seen as the man who challenged the king. A traitor.

But in Stannis' case he was right all along. And he rebelled because of that. If Cersei and her childern die/are disinherited, it proves the fact that Stannis was always the rightful king.

Again, without a confession, no one will know the truth and he won't be seen as being right in rebelling. Cersei and her children dying will not prove Stannis was the rightful king. Only a confession or witness can do that.