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If Ser Robert Strong was The Mountain That Rides, how did Qyburn do it?


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#1 King Pellinore

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:19 PM

Most readers probably believe that Ser Robert Strong is what's left of Ser Gregor Clegane (sans noggin).  I lean that way but, I wonder, how was it done and how is he controlled.  We know that he has delved into the darkest of studies as a Maester to the point that the Citadel took away his chain however, it was never said that he dabbled in  magic.  Without a chain, it's more difficult to tell without him coming right out and saying so.

  So, the question is:  Did Qyburn use magic or alchemy to wake this giant monster?  Which ever one it was, I believe we'll see he bit off more than he can chew (much like Frankenstein). 



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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:28 PM

Not a damn clue.

 

Will it ever be explained though ? Martin seems like the type to keep quiet about it, though it's certainly a different type of magic to bring somebody back to life in Robert Strong's form at least.



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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:50 PM

pretty much implied he dabbled in magic



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:18 AM

If he only 'dabbled' in magic then, I may be right and Ser Robert Strong will go out of control.  Besides, he may have implied training in magic and the implication may have been deceit.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:22 AM

If he only 'dabbled' in magic then, I may be right and Ser Robert Strong will go out of control.  Besides, he may have implied training in magic and the implication may have been deceit.

Yea its going to be a complete shitshow



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:37 AM

pretty much implied he dabbled in magic

 

This. We've seen from Sam's interactions with Marwyn that the Citadel is actively trying to rid the world of magic. They sent Aemon to the Wall on purpose, poisoned the dragons, and Sam is warned to mind what he says else he'll find poison in his porridge. Stripping Qyburn of his chain and denouncing him actually seems tame if he was successfully practicing magic, to be honest.



#7 Black Rider of the East

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:49 AM

He had some one warg him, he used the Other's wight making magic cause he is an Other in disguise, he used the Red Gods Magic, He drowned him because that which is dead cannot die.

I don't know its a big world with magic. Any thing is possible.



#8 Arya kiddin'

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:56 AM

I think it is the "colder" (related to Others and wights) version of reviving as done by Red Priests. It's like Preservation by Ice.



#9 King Pellinore

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:56 AM

He could have lost his chain for exploring magic or, as he basically tells Cersei, for experimenting on living people to see how they die. The answer to that may lie somewhere in the middle.  Maybe he was trying to find a way to stop or reverse death and got caught.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:58 AM

MMD used blood magic to make the vege-Drogo, and we know she and Marwyn used hang out together. Perhaps Marwyn taught something to Qyburn and now Q has just refined all this a bit further with her little project at the black cells.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:27 AM

MMD used blood magic to make the vege-Drogo, and we know she and Marwyn used hang out together. Perhaps Marwyn taught something to Qyburn and now Q has just refined all this a bit further with her little project at the black cells.

 

Hmmm. That's a very nice connection you made there.  *scribble scribble

 

Certainly this re-animation can be a refined form of blood magic that MMD used. Vege-Drogo after all seems quite similar to Robert Strong. 



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:39 AM

He gave him a head transport, that's why Qyburn called him Robert Strong.

 

After he wins the trial for Cersei he'll open his visor and say "hey wifey, I'm back."



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 07:36 AM

I'm not sure if it was a theory I read but I think it was speculated that Marwyn, MMD and Qayburn all studied with the Shadow Binders of Ashai. Qayburn got in trouble for studying anatomy not on corpses but live humans. Or at least he was suspected of it. I think he is using both Shadow Binding magic as a way to transfer life to Gregor' s dead body. For what it worth.



#14 Stan the Man Baratheon

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 07:37 AM

Its simple. Re-animation Jutsu.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 07:59 AM

I wonder if Qyburn will use a little remote thingy to control him during the trial by combat like in Robot Wars.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 08:08 AM

I wonder if Qyburn will use a little remote thingy to control him during the trial by combat like in Robot Wars.

Maybe he didn't want the puppeteers for body parts just their puppeteering skills.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 08:30 AM

Some weird combination of science and magic as he was into experiments on live people and was into magic like Marwyn

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 08:35 AM

He did it the same way I would, duct tape and super glue

#19 Mathias of Scandinavia

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 09:45 AM

Its simple. Re-animation Jutsu.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 09:58 AM

He did it the same way I would, duct tape and super glue

 

 

There is absolutely NOTHING that that combo can not accomplish! :cool4: