Superman and Batman: The League of Extraordinary #$@% Ups

[Rhom]

Yes.

Their animated movies are incredible. It's baffling to me that their "real" movies can't follow the same storylines (aka: the GOOD ones).

I would think that's an entirely different department with likely an entirely different corporate oversight.

[Twenty of House Goodmen]

I was so disappointed whe they announced this movie, especially using a quote from TDKR. A Batman/Superman movie is not the proper way to go for a MoS sequel, and I can't express my disappointment in that movie. Though I think the MoS franchise could've been salvaged with a great sequel, but instead, they do this.

Also, seems they're putting so much crap into this one film. Superman, Batman, WW, a couple of villains, and more superhero cameos. Call it the Justice League already.

Yes.

Their animated movies are incredible. It's baffling to me that their "real" movies can't follow the same storylines (aka: the GOOD ones).

Yeah, DC animated movies steamroll their live action movies. They're even better than most of the Marvel movies(live action and animated) IMO. I guess Warner Brothers really suck when it comes to superhero movies.

[Martini Sigil]

3 movie deal for Gal Gadot

http://screenrant.com/gal-gadot-wonder-woman-contract/

[Rhom]

3 movie deal for Gal Gadot

http://screenrant.com/gal-gadot-wonder-woman-contract/

George Clooney had a three movie deal for Batman.... For whatever that's worth.

[Bastard of Boston]

I don't know if it's the rebel in me, but the amount of backlash this movie has received over the last few months has led to me rooting for it. I'm more intrigued by all the decisions than I am upset with them. I'm genuinely interested in what Affleck is going to bring to the table.

Kevin Smith has seen Ben in the suit. I'm excited to see what they've done because I've always been left cold by the Bat suit in the Nolanverse films...probably because I never saw it as much of a departure from the previous films. I'm ready for a different take.

Per Kevin Smith: “I talked about it on Hollywood Babble-On, but I have seen the suit. I did this Man Of Steel Yahoo, fan event when the DVD came out. I was hosting Zack Snyder was there, Amy Adams, we had Henry Cavill from satellite over in the UK, and you know it was all about Man of Steel. And at one point Zack talked a little bit about the future and Batman Vs Superman, but when the show was all done, Zack was all like ‘Kev come here, come here’, and he takes me over to the corner and whips out his phone, and he shows me a picture of Batman. Live action version of Batman. A very familiar Batman, I might add. It didn’t look like any of the cinematic Batmans that have ever gone before. He shows me that picture and behind Batman…Superman in the suit looming in the distance. Both on a roof top kind of thing. It was on a set, a little set the put together for this photo shoot. So I was like ‘Oh my god! Is that the suit?! The suit looks amazing! Did you get people to model it?’ And he goes, ‘That’s your boy.’ And I look closely and it’s Ben Affleck wearing the suit. The suit, it is not mine to spill, in terms of what it looks like, you’ll see it. They’ll tell you when they want you to know, but any Batman fan is going to be F—ing pleased. I’m going to tell you that right now. They gave you the suit you all wanted to see.”

[Rhom]

I don't know if it's the rebel in me, but the amount of backlash this movie has received over the last few months has led to me rooting for it. I'm more intrigued by all the decisions than I am upset with them. I'm genuinely interested in what Affleck is going to bring to the table.

Kevin Smith has seen Ben in the suit. I'm excited to see what they've done because I've always been left cold by the Bat suit in the Nolanverse films...probably because I never saw it as much of a departure from the previous films. I'm ready for a different take.

Per Kevin Smith: I talked about it on Hollywood Babble-On, but I have seen the suit. I did this Man Of Steel Yahoo, fan event when the DVD came out. I was hosting Zack Snyder was there, Amy Adams, we had Henry Cavill from satellite over in the UK, and you know it was all about Man of Steel. And at one point Zack talked a little bit about the future and Batman Vs Superman, but when the show was all done, Zack was all like Kev come here, come here, and he takes me over to the corner and whips out his phone, and he shows me a picture of Batman. Live action version of Batman. A very familiar Batman, I might add. It didnt look like any of the cinematic Batmans that have ever gone before. He shows me that picture and behind BatmanSuperman in the suit looming in the distance. Both on a roof top kind of thing. It was on a set, a little set the put together for this photo shoot. So I was like Oh my god! Is that the suit?! The suit looks amazing! Did you get people to model it? And he goes, Thats your boy. And I look closely and its Ben Affleck wearing the suit. The suit, it is not mine to spill, in terms of what it looks like, youll see it. Theyll tell you when they want you to know, but any Batman fan is going to be Fing pleased. Im going to tell you that right now. They gave you the suit you all wanted to see.

Okay... And just what is that? Gray and blue? More infiltration suit instead of body armor? I'm not sure I know what that means.

[Kalbear]

I guess the look of batman really isn't what I care about. It wasn't that distracting that cap America looked a bit different, or the xmen didn't have their classic uniforms. It's the characters that matter.

[Myrddin]

I don't know if it's the rebel in me, but the amount of backlash this movie has received over the last few months has led to me rooting for it. I'm more intrigued by all the decisions than I am upset with them. I'm genuinely interested in what Affleck is going to bring to the table.

I agree. The level of hate thrown at this movie (that hasn't even been made) is beyond fan rage.

Personally, I would've preferred another MoS movie before bringing in other heroes. Monday Armchair Director/Writer/Producer here.

That said, I'm one of the few who liked MoS. The destruction was too much at the end (and Pa Kent's death was not done well). But those aside, I liked the direction they went with the character and his introduction to the world. The movie didn't give us "Superman" but it built a foundation where we see how Kal El becomes Superman.

SvB will start with a world that both admires and fears Superman. Bringing in Lex and Bruce on the scene in this environment has tons of dramatic potential. Here we have essentially two similar people who see Superman as a threat. Allies, at the beginning, trying to figure out how to contain this alien. Of course, they'll eventually follow different paths -- one to become the arch enemy and the other will become the closest thing Kal El will have to a best friend.

So, I still have hope for the next one. Sorry guys. Not feeling the hate here.

[Rhom]

SvB will start with a world that both admires and fears Superman. Bringing in Lex and Bruce on the scene in this environment has tons of dramatic potential. Here we have essentially two similar people who see Superman as a threat. Allies, at the beginning, trying to figure out how to contain this alien. Of course, they'll eventually follow different paths -- one to become the arch enemy and the other will become the closest thing Kal El will have to a best friend.

So, I still have hope for the next one. Sorry guys. Not feeling the hate here.

If I thought that's what we were going to get, I would agree. Sadly, every announcement that has come out has made this sound less and less the case.

[DaveSumm]

Okay... And just what is that? Gray and blue? More infiltration suit instead of body armor? I'm not sure I know what that means.

The first thing that sprang to mind was that fan made Batman vs Alien vs Predator video that Smith said he loved. Sorry for not linking it, I'm on a shit phone and just writing this post is a chore. But I'm sure you've all seen it. So yea, old school grey and blue was what I thought he meant.

Also I agree that this film won't be rubbish as everyone seems to think, it's more that I'm mourning the loss of what could have been a great stand alone Superman film. Had this been the third film I'd be all for it (and to be fair, if it is largely a Supes film with Batman in the last half, and a fleeting scene with Wonder Woman, then I still am).

[drawkcabi]

If I thought that's what we were going to get, I would agree. Sadly, every announcement that has come out has made this sound less and less the case.

This is how I feel. I also hated MoS though and any movie that continues on from there is going to be met with skepticism from me. But even putting that aside, everything I hear about this movie makes thinking we are going towards another Batman and Robin.

I remember the (studio's attempt at) hype building up to B&R. They were like Clooney! Schwartzengger! Thurman! And the fans would say, "what about the story?" and they'd come back with "Alicia Silverstone will be Batgirl!" fans would say "She's not even going to be Commissioner Gordon's daughter?" Studio would go and say "but look Bane! Pretty colors! Ohhhh, come and see!"

I feel I'm getting the same kind of studio vibe for BvS. :stillsick:

[Bastard of Boston]

Excerpt from an Affleck interview with Playboy:

PLAYBOY: When Warner Bros. named you Batman, the internet exploded with hostility. After climbing back from career adversity to win the best picture Oscar for Argo, was your initial reaction more "Not again" or "Screw you"?

AFFLECK: It wasn't either, really. I expected that reaction. Warner Bros. told me, "You should know what you're getting into." They showed me the reactions to other folks who had been cast in these roles. They said this is how it tends to play out initially.

PLAYBOY: What convinced you?

AFFLECK: When they asked if I would be Batman, I told them I didn't see myself in the role and I was going to have to beg off. They said I'd fit well into how they were going to approach the character and asked me to look at what the writer-director, Zack Snyder, was doing. The stuff was incredible.

PLAYBOY: Why?

AFFLECK: It was a unique take on Batman that was still consistent with the mythology. It made me excited. All of a sudden I had a reading of the character. When people see it, it will make more sense than it does now or even than it did to me initially.

PLAYBOY: How will your Batman differ from the others, particularly the one played by Christian Bale?

AFFLECK: I don't want to give away too much, but the idea for the new Batman is to redefine him in a way that doesn't compete with the Bale and Chris Nolan Batman but still exists within the Batman canon. It will be an older and wiser version, particularly as he relates to Henry Cavill's Superman character.

PLAYBOY: How much did the hostile fan reaction bother you?

AFFLECK: I understand I'm at a disadvantage with the internet. If I thought the result would be another Daredevil, I'd be out there picketing myself. [laughs] Why would I make the movie if I didn't think it was going to be good and that I could be good in it?

PLAYBOY: How would you have handled this a decade ago, when things weren't going so well?

AFFLECK: I probably would have been more sensitive. I had less perspective than I do now. I've learned it doesn't matter what people think before a movie comes out; what matters is what people think when they see the movie. There's a lot of noise in the world, and the internet magnifies that energy. My focus is on the actual execution of the movie. Would I have had that perspective 10 years ago? I don't know. The world was different then. It seems odd to me to criticize casting if you haven't read the script and don't know the tone or the take. But the casting of high-profile projects seems to generate negative attention; it's fun to give your thumbs-up or thumbs-down. I've had the luxury recently of doing Argo,The Town and The Company Men, films that didn't have a high profile. You have the luxury of waiting until the movie is released before being judged. I've learned to think, I may succeed or fail, but I'm going to do so on the merit of my own instincts. It's a great business in that way. You do a movie that's successful, you get a little victory lap, and then you start at the beginning; you have to prove yourself all over again. I like that because it motivates you to work harder. I was thrilled with the reception Argo got. It was one of the great professional experiences of my life. I'm thrilled I'm working with David Fincher in Gone Girl and that I'll direct Live by Night, this big, sweeping gangster-epic morality story.

PLAYBOY: You turned around a cold streak playing George Reeves in Hollywoodland, a film about how his acting career was destroyed after he was typecast as Superman. Did you learn any lessons to prepare you to play another caped icon?

AFFLECK: When George Reeves was Super-man you had three TV channels, and that show was iconic. Now there are so many more options. You see actors doing everything from YouTube shorts to big-budget movies. Also, television shows hold you hostage for long periods. My wife was on a show for five years. It's the same with Jon Hamm and Mad Men. It's conceivable you could become hostage to one role. In movies? Look at Robert Downey Jr. He's able to be brilliant in Iron Man and The Avengers, but he can also go do Sherlock Holmes.

PLAYBOY: George Clooney kept a photo of himself as Batman on his office wall as a reminder of what can happen when you take a role for money and fame. If you had such a photo in your office, which movie would you go with?

AFFLECK: I'd probably have two or three. [laughs] It'd be tough to choose. The only movie I actually regret is Daredevil. It just kills me. I love that story, that character, and the fact that it got [frick]ed up the way it did stays with me. Maybe that's part of the motivation to do Batman.

PLAYBOY: Describe what holding that Oscar statue meant to you when Argo won for best picture.

AFFLECK: There had been plenty of moments when I didn't know where I was going to end up. I had been kicked around some and maybe left for dead. I'm not a great believer in awards and the idea that some movie is best, because it's subjective. But standing there at the Academy Awards eased some of the pain and frustration I'd been carrying. I loved movies and felt I knew how to make good ones and had something to offer, but there was a time when I wasn't sure I would be invited to try anymore.

[Rhom]

PLAYBOY: George Clooney kept a photo of himself as Batman on his office wall as a reminder of what can happen when you take a role for money and fame. If you had such a photo in your office, which movie would you go with?

AFFLECK: I'd probably have two or three. [laughs] It'd be tough to choose. The only movie I actually regret is Daredevil. It just kills me. I love that story, that character, and the fact that it got [frick]ed up the way it did stays with me. Maybe that's part of the motivation to do Batman.

I'd be interested to know just exactly how does Affleck think that the Daredevil movie was "fricked up." Obviously, it was... but I want to know what he thinks is different about the finished product compared to the movie he was pitched.

[WTFSalami]

Nothing about Ben Affleck made Daredevil bad.

The script, Jennifer Whatshername, and the decision to allow Farrell to play Bullseye as a schizophrenic Irish meth head who dressed like he was constantly plugged into the Matrix is what ruined that movie. Affleck was perfectly fine in his role.

[SpaceChampion]

I don't think you would need full on origin films for everyone like the Avengers, but at least a second MoS film (that is actually... you know... good) to lay the groundwork for why the JL exists in this universe and then you could get full into it with a team up. To jump right into it screams out for needing more backstory.

From AMC Movie Talk there was discussion that Warner Brothers has decided that they'll be shooting BvS and JL back to back. The year delay is probably to accomodate that. BvS is rumoured to end on a cliffhanger with some huge threat appearing. I can easily see WW, Green Lantern etc. in BvS very little, just enough to tease the threat and each of their concerns regarding whether Supe would be with them or against them.

[PetyrPunkinhead]

Nothing about Ben Affleck made Daredevil bad.

The script, Jennifer Whatshername, and the decision to allow Farrell to play Bullseye as a schizophrenic Irish meth head who dressed like he was constantly plugged into the Matrix is what ruined that movie. Affleck was perfectly fine in his role.

I never had any attachment to the character before the DD film, and I really liked it. It got me in to the DD comics for a while.

Elektra though was all bad. All.

[Rhom]

I never had any attachment to the character before the DD film, and I really liked it. It got me in to the DD comics for a while.

Elektra though was all bad. All.

You know, for the most part I agree. I kinda liked Afflek in that movie.

[Crazydog7]

I am cautiously optomistic about this but I keep remembering that other superhero movie Mr. Afflek was in. Things could just as easily go that way.

[aceluby]

I loved MOS, I thought they did a really good job w/ it, although I didn't like the casting for any of the other people on Krypton. I think I would have had higher hopes for BvS if they would have merged the Dark Knight series w/ MOS, but I'm still cautiously optimistic.

[King Bob's Warhammer]

Will Arnett's Lego Batman is more badass than Affleck could ever hope to be.