Taylor O' Sevens Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I predict Jaime's arc will come full circle in the novel with him dying defending Tommen from Aegon's forces. It makes sense since his character arc is all about seeking redemption and working towards upholding oaths. What better way to redeem himself than doing the one thing a kingsguard Knight is sworn to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I believe his encounter with Lady Stoneheart will end with a promise and an oath. I don't know what promise or oath that will be, but maybe it will have something to do with him killing Cersei, and fulfilling the Valonqar prophecy. If his arc ends with Stoneheart, I will be very disappointed, as I think he is one the best characters to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Penry Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I see Jaime outliving Tommen to be honest, so will Cersei in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amoracchius Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 That's interesting, but I think (f)Aegon will be getting to KL fairly soon and Jaime is (yet again) lost somewhere in the Riverlands. Last time it took him almost two full books to get back to KL and that was with Brienne protecting him, not leading him to Lady Stoneheart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkaggCannibal Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Maybe he should start feeling sorry for Bran? Or die, that would be best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Carnahan Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 tbh, I still think he will leave the world the same way he came into it (together with Cersei) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharvot Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I believe his encounter with Lady Stoneheart will end with a promise and an oath. I don't know what promise or oath that will be, but maybe it will have something to do with him killing Cersei, and fulfilling the Valonqar prophecy. If his arc ends with Stoneheart, I will be very disappointed, as I think he is one the best characters to read. Early on in the 3rd book, before his hand is cut off, Jaime reflects that he is going to honor his oath to send Sansa back home and her sister if he can find her because he thinks it would be amusing to honor an oath that so many people assume he will betray. This is well before we see a major change in character for Jaime where he starts to become the good and honorable knight. He is also keeping his promise to not raise swords against the Riverlands with his deft end to the Riverrun siege. Sansa is still out there somewhere with Brienne looking for her and Jaime very much interested in the results of Breinne's search. For these reasons, I do not think Jaime's story arc will end with Lady Stoneheart. I am of the mind that somehow both Jaime and Brienne survive the encounter. I'm scatter shooting a bit here, but I think they end up somewhere near the Quiet Isle, have a run-in with Sandor and/or The Blackfish and learn of a young and beautiful bastard daughter that Littlefinger has been claiming to have up in the Vale. Since both Jaime and Sandor are well aware of Littlefinger and he had never even hinted at having any kind of offspring before, suspicions would certainly arise. They would present an interesting and formidable 4-some of travel companions to say the least...and I doubt it meshes very well with Littlefinger's plans for Sansa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnief Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I am of the mind that somehow both Jaime and Brienne survive the encounter. I'm scatter shooting a bit here, but I think they end up somewhere near the Quiet Isle, have a run-in with Sandor and/or The Blackfish and learn of a young and beautiful bastard daughter that Littlefinger has been claiming to have up in the Vale. Since both Jaime and Sandor are well aware of Littlefinger and he had never even hinted at having any kind of offspring before, suspicions would certainly arise. They would present an interesting and formidable 4-some of travel companions to say the least...and I doubt it meshes very well with Littlefinger's plans for Sansa. That would be pretty cool-it would *almost* make up for all the boring Brienne chapters is AFFC. tbh, I still think he will leave the world the same way he came into it (together with Cersei) I think that's how there story arcs will end myself-unless Jaime joins the NW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharvot Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 tbh, I still think he will leave the world the same way he came into it (together with Cersei) I'm similarly inclined. Too much has been made of the fact that he and Cersei came in to the world together. It would be poetic if they left together as well...even more poetic if Jaime died in some sort of heroic sacrifice to save other people by killing Cersei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byronlhsdrmr Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Since Jaime is my favorite--living--character, I have thought about this much myself. I think there are a couple plausible ways that could make sense with the story: 1. He's Lord Regent of Casterly Rock until Tommen comes of age 2. He and Cersei die together 3. He is a member (possibly Lord Commander) of the kingsguard 4. He dies protecting whoever ends up on the Iron Throne in the end 5. He takes the black 6. He, Cersei, Tommen and Myrcella go into exile and live happily ever after. 1. He's Regent of Casterly Rock until Tommen comes of age. Jaime is very protective of Tommen. Perhaps, seeing the damage done by the parenting of Joffrey, by both Robert and Cersei, he has an investment in parenting Tommen. Some of the best scenes of Feast involve Jaime battling Cersei over what is best Tommen. In many ways he chooses Tommen--taking up what's best for Tommen--over Cersei's good graces, which is something we know he still craves to some extent. I could definitely see Jaime returning to King's Landing in lieu of the coming attack of Aegon and escaping with Tommen. Tommen is the rightful heir of Casterly Rock...kind of (He likes stamping papers, so all he has to do is stamp a decree that he legitimizes himself before he abdicates the throne). I could see Jaime fighting for Tommen's rights and saying that he'll comply with whatever as long as Tommen is safe and given Casterly Rock. This may require Jaime to fulfill the prophesy and kill Cersei. 2. Jaime and Cersei die together. As others have already mentioned, much has been made of Cersei and Jaime coming into this world together. However, much of this was made in the first two books and really, in only two chapters. First we had Ned's confrontation with Cersei (which involved Cersei coming on to Ned) then Catelyn's confrontation with Jaime (which involved Jaime coming on to Catelyn). Since then, it seems this ship has sailed. Jaime has moved on to bigger and well, bigger things (get it, Brienne!). But, I suppose it is still possible they die together since they're crimes are associated to each other. If both were captured by Aegon or Dany or Stannis they'd be executed together. But, I wouldn't bank on it. 3. Member of the Kingsguard. So, much was made in Storm of Swords when Jaime returned to King's Landing with his father, about how he was Lord Commander of the kingsguard. This is how Jaime sees himself. So, I think it would be very fitting for him to end up as a member of the book's final kingsguard. Now this would be very difficult unless of course Tommen ends the series king, and we all know that ain't happening. Since Dany would be very unlikely to allow Jaime to live, let along be a member of her Queensgard. The same could be said about Aegon since, even if you do not believe he is real, he at least has to represent he is Aerys' grandson (and I believe that he at least believes he is the real Aegon). However, maybe Jaime ensures Aegon the west if he spares Tommen and confirms Jaime to his kingsguard (that can only occur with Cersei out of the way). Stannis would most certainly kill Jaime. However, my favorite scenario involves Jaime meandering through the neck, finding out about Jon and becoming the first of Jon's kingsguard, but thats me. 4. He dies protecting whoever ends up on the Iron Throne. I think it would be a very fitting end for Jaime to die protecting Dany, or Jon. It'd be a full circle character thread. 5. He takes the black. If Dany or Stannis, or Aegon take the Iron Throne, then Jaime is likely a dead man. Unless of course he takes the black. Again this would be fitting and allow Jaime to regain some honor by taking the black. 6. He, Cersei, Tommen and Myrcella escape into exile and live happily ever after. Let them eat cake! Come on, this would be, sort of, a happy ending, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Fire and Blood Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 To your point 5..... Jaime had the dream while laying on the weirwood trunk that he had a flaming sword and was fighting off dead men. Could that be a possibility if he has to take the Black? I feel like the timing is incorrect, but we need to address that dream when thinking of what will happen to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRhaegar Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 AMAZING theory that I'm now a supporter (for the most part) of:http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/2013/05/jaime-azor-ahai-god-of-war.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petyr Patter Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I think Jaime needs to see Bran face-to-face before he dies or leaves Westeros. I also think he is to valuable a hostage to hang with Edmure in Casterly Rock. Also, I think Cersei and Jaime's belief that they will leave the world together is the sort of melodramatic nonsense grounded the belief they are special in ways other men are not that is going to swept under the rising tide. Ultimately, I would like to see Jaime take the black as a final atonement for his many sins. AMAZING theory that I'm now a supporter (for the most part) of:http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/2013/05/jaime-azor-ahai-god-of-war.html It pretty much lost me with the first two sentences, "What is a savior? If we take the example of Jesus, a savior is someone who defends the weak from the powerful. In other words, someone who defends people from other people." How do you not know what kind of savior Jesus is? And if you don't, don't use him as an example! He saves people from their sins, or rather the damnation that follows from their sins. He PREACHED protection of the weak, but being one of the weak himself he did very little of that himself. I guess there is that sinner he saved from stoning with his "he who has not sinned throw the first stone" claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Lunny Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 AMAZING theory that I'm now a supporter (for the most part) of:http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/2013/05/jaime-azor-ahai-god-of-war.html I disagree with 99% of whats said in that article. What a load of balls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I have a feeling that Jaime will be the only sibling out of he, Cersei, and Tyrion who will survive the end of the series. I think Cersei will live long enough to outlive all three of her children, and then her story is done. Tyrion will make it to the end, but I think his plot armour will fail him before the end of the series. How does a kinslayer come back from killing his own father? How could he ever be the lord of Casterly Rock? The guy has survived so many ridiculous things that he shouldn't have been expected to live through; I think in true GRRM fashion he'll die some oddball way that nobody sees coming or is less than glorious. Everyone expects Jaime to die, so he'll live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWindsRevenge Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I hope Jaime ends up surviving the series, however I don't see him surviving the encounter with Lady Stoneheart. This is the same lady who only let Breanne survive because she apparently agreed to lure Jaime to his death. I know the last part is conjecture but I think it's valid. I just don think wishful thinking will save him from Stoneheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I hope Jaime ends up surviving the series, however I don't see him surviving the encounter with Lady Stoneheart. This is the same lady who only let Breanne survive because she apparently agreed to lure Jaime to his death. I know the last part is conjecture but I think it's valid. I just don think wishful thinking will save him from Stoneheart Well GRRM confirmed she said sword, which had meant she would kill Jaime so... I too am lost as to how that will go down. The theory that Nymeria will pop up sounds kinda nice to me, but I'm not sure I really buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHouseHB Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Jaime will survive long enough to protect Rhaegar's rightful heir to the throne Jon. Redeeming himself from not protecting Aegon and Rhaenys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWindsRevenge Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Well GRRM confirmed she said sword, which had meant she would kill Jaime so... I too am lost as to how that will go down. The theory that Nymeria will pop up sounds kinda nice to me, but I'm not sure I really buy it.I would be stoked if Nymeria and her huge ass wolf pack came and saved Jaime. But Stoneheart is straight ruthless and Jaime does have to answer for attempting to murder Bran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Lannister Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I hope Jaime ends up surviving the series, however I don't see him surviving the encounter with Lady Stoneheart. This is the same lady who only let Breanne survive because she apparently agreed to lure Jaime to his death. I know the last part is conjecture but I think it's valid. I just don think wishful thinking will save him from Stoneheart Same. Sadly. I really can't see any out for him with this Stoneheart situation, unless Brienne had a change of heart and led him away instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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