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Ramsays 63 and Daenerys 163... Is Martin trying to hint something?


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#1 Seņor de la Tormenta

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:56 PM

The similar numbers of crucified....Is it a random or an intentional message for the readers?

Edited by Seņor de la Tormenta, 22 January 2014 - 12:57 PM.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:00 PM

Just another hint to show she's on her way to madness and sociopathy.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:00 PM

Deer R'hllor.

 

Yes, yes it has a secret meaning. Daenerys is actually not Aerys' kid, but a bastard from one of the KG knights.

Oh, and she is also about to discover her psychotically sadistic side.

And she will team up with Ramsay to open a noble-bacon restaurant. Ramsay will flay them, Daenerys will cook them.

 

Anything to fit the Stannis-Is-The-Rightful-King-And-Dany-Sucks narrative.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:01 PM

Yes and the message is, Daenerys is responsible for more deaths than Ramsay  :dunno:



#5 El Guapo

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:06 PM

Yes. Daenerys is winning by 100.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:07 PM

can i have something to drink with that ? 



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:07 PM

 

Anything to fit the Stannis-Is-The-Rightful-King-And-Dany-Sucks narrative.

I blame you for bringing Stannis into the thread where he previously has not been mentioned.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:07 PM

Yes. Daenerys is winning by 100.


:lmao:

She's more than 100 up on Ramsey.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:08 PM

Seems like Dany is just as big a villain, blinded by the nobility of her cause.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:08 PM

Deer R'hllor.
 
Yes, yes it has a secret meaning. Daenerys is actually not Aerys' kid, but a bastard from one of the KG knights.
Oh, and she is also about to discover her psychotically sadistic side.
And she will team up with Ramsay to open a noble-bacon restaurant. Ramsay will flay them, Daenerys will cook them.
 
Anything to fit the Stannis-Is-The-Rightful-King-And-Dany-Sucks narrative.


:agree:

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:09 PM

Good people can do horrible things, that's what i took from it.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:11 PM

:lmao:

She's more than 100 up on Ramsey.

 

That's true I forgot Astapor. Dany is really kicking Ramsey's ass.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:14 PM

 
That's true I forgot Astapor. Dany is really kicking Ramsey's ass.


He really better step up his game. He'll never win if he keeps playing with his toys :D

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:17 PM

Didn't 63 of the free folk from Mole's town come back to the wall with Jon too?

 

From the "An Apple or an Onion, you have to choose" chapter



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:20 PM

I think a more apt comparison would be the 63 Ramsay crucified with the 163 children the Great Masters crucified.

 

Which do you all think was more vile?



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:23 PM

I think a more apt comparison would be the 63 Ramsay crucified with the 163 children the Great Masters crucified.

 

Which do you all think was more vile?

On a scale from evil to EVIL? Truth to tell, it would be Ramsay <<<<<<<< Dany << Great Masters.

Ramsay crucified enemy soldiers guilty of war crimes. Dany crucified civilians who could be innocent as well as guilty. And 100 more than Ramsay. The Great Masters crucified innocent children.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:26 PM

Yes. Daenerys is winning by 100.

:lol:

 

ETA: I could not give two figs about the 163. "There could have been innocents...!" is such a weak, pitiful argument. 


Edited by Stubby, 22 January 2014 - 07:40 PM.
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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:29 PM

On a scale from evil to EVIL? Truth to tell, it would be Ramsay <<<<<<<< Dany << Great Masters.

Ramsay crucified enemy soldiers guilty of war crimes. Dany crucified civilians who could be innocent as well as guilty. And 100 more than Ramsay. The Great Masters crucified innocent children.

 

:stunned:

 

Wow! I don't even know what to say to that.

 

The act of the Great Master was an act of war, they knew Dany was coming for them and used the crucifixion of the children to dissuade her from it.

 

Now, you we can have a discussion of whether or not some of the masters might not have conspired to crucify the children, however, none of them were innocent. These are people who have made it their life’s work to enslave other human begins.

 

But I suppose we all have varying opinions of what is justified or not.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:30 PM

Yes. Daenerys is winning by 100.

A lot more than that if you count all the Astapori Good Masters and other civilians, the Undying in Asshai, etc. 



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:32 PM

A lot more than that if you count all the Astapori Good Masters and other civilians, the Undying in Asshai, etc. 

 

Yes I know Dany Girl corrected me. Daenerys is winning by atleast 1,000 probably much more at this point.


Edited by El Guapo, 22 January 2014 - 01:32 PM.