Wmarshal Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 When reading post of Aegon I see a lot of people claim being learned is not enough yet Rhaegar only had being learned to his name and so main people on the board saw him as the greatest would be king ever . Why does this make Rhaegar Jaeherys reborn and Aegon a mere nerd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortspear Rick Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 By Aegon do you mean Young Griff? Rhaegar wasn't just a scholarly person, but he also was quite skilled in arms. In short, Rhaegar had a lot going for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Rhaegar was also a bad-ass fighter. ETA: Also, he was pretty. Yes, I'm shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roberto Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Many people from Rhaegar's time saw him as a pack of virtues, pretty much everyone who has met him has only good things to say of him, and in many different areas. Whereas Aegon is an untested boy, he's supposedly smart and capable, but so was Robb, and we all know how that turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Um ... didn't Rhaegar die in his very first serious fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSarellaX Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I'm inclined to believe that Rhaegar, as Crown Prince, would have a bit more experience in ruling matters than Aegon. Not that it helped him much in the end.... Anyway, he is dead, which adds to the mystery. Besides, Rhaegar is Jon's father, and Aegon is a possible Blackfyre. I suppose most of us are more attached to Jon than to Aegon at this point. Oh, and you know he is probably going to die/fail, so I at least am trying to avoid becoming too emotionally invested in his arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north of the wall Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I'm inclined to believe that Rhaegar, as Crown Prince, would have a bit more experience in ruling matters than Aegon. Not that it helped him much in the end.... Anyway, he is dead, which adds to the mystery. Besides, Rhaegar is Jon's father, and Aegon is a possible Blackfyre. I suppose most of us are more attached to Jon than to Aegon at this point. Oh, and you know he is probably going to die/fail, so I at least am trying to avoid becoming too emotionally invested in his arc.definately agree. you can't come into the story so late and triumph (purelly my opinion) so why get too emotionally involved if you suspect a demise in the near future. Also I may be alone in this but I fail to see why Rhegar would be the "best" ruler. He may have been but since this never got tested I'll withhold judgement on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosimaistheHottest Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 definately agree. you can't come into the story so late and triumph (purelly my opinion) so why get too emotionally involved if you suspect a demise in the near future. Also I may be alone in this but I fail to see why Rhegar would be the "best" ruler. He may have been but since this never got tested I'll withhold judgement on it you're not alone. I would like to know what kind of ruling has he ever done. You need to at least have taken responsibility for something and done a good job before the title best king eva gets pulled. That goes for Rhaegaer n Aegon. I also reserve judgement on Rhaegar as a badass warrior when the only battle/fight we ever hear of him participating in is the one he lost and died in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of Rhaegar Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Aegon might posses some of Rhaegar's valued character traits and just be showing his youth, inexperience, and the need to prove himself after having spent his whole life hiding his heritage. I don't think he would embarrass himself in a fight either and he may be brave to a fault... I have a feeling he could make a fine king. However, I do have to question his late arrival on the scene and the dubious shadow that casts over the end of his story arch. What do you all think Tyrion meant when he said Griff had "taken the bait" when they turned West instead of continuing East? Was Tyrion trying to sabotage Griff? Why? Did Griff's reaction to the game (Cryvase sp?) they played scare Tyrion or was it something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I think you're overplaying how much people love Rhaegar, and especially how geeky people think (f)Aegon is. A lot of people are skeptical of how good Rhaegar really was, although there is a fair amount of textual evidence as to why many think he would have been great. Still, the reason it's thought he could have be Jaeherys come again is in no small part down to wishful thinking (by characters in the text at least), because they hadn't had a truly good king since Jaeherys. What about Aegon V? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Great Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Rhaegar would have definately made a better king than Joffrey, Aerys and Robert. But i don't believe he'd have had a reign worthy of being sung. Whilst he might not have been a king that let the realm fall into debt or one that that was mad enough to BBQ a Lord Paramount... But he he seemed like a king who wasn't good at planning. I wasn't impressed with the approach he gave to RR. He should have made his mind up on what approach he was going to give the rebels as soon as Jon Arryn raised his banners, if he was going to fight them he should have had his boots on the ground way before the battle of the Trident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
averde Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Rhaegar is idolized in the books because he died in a war, was good looking, scholarly, and could fight. However, none of these traits guarantee he would be a good king. In reality all the evidence points to Rhaegar being a terrible king. He was obsessed with prophecy to the point that he ran away (or kidnapped) a high born girl from a very important noble house and sparked a civil war. He was next in line to the throne under an increasingly crazy king and he goes and does something like that? Yeah doesn't sound like any sings of intelligence there. On top of that his obsession sounds like the setup for another tragedy like the one at Summerhall, so he clearly learned nothing from the history of his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roberto Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Rhaegar is idolized in the books because he died in a war, was good looking, scholarly, and could fight. However, none of these traits guarantee he would be a good king. In reality all the evidence points to Rhaegar being a terrible king. He was obsessed with prophecy to the point that he ran away (or kidnapped) a high born girl from a very important noble house and sparked a civil war. He was next in line to the throne under an increasingly crazy king and he goes and does something like that? Yeah doesn't sound like any sings of intelligence there. On top of that his obsession sounds like the setup for another tragedy like the one at Summerhall, so he clearly learned nothing from the history of his family. We don't know that, he could very well have fallen in love with her. Not the smartest thing to do, certainly, but nothing about it screamed civil war. What started Robert's Rebellion was Aerys' behaviour towards the demands to know what happened to Lyanna, not the "abduction" itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Is there anyone who believe that Rhaegar is Jaehaerys reborn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Is there anyone who believe that Rhaegar is Jaehaerys reborn?Me.(LALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING TO REASON I CANT HEAR YA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 We don't know that, he could very well have fallen in love with her. Not the smartest thing to do, certainly, but nothing about it screamed civil war. What started Robert's Rebellion was Aerys' behaviour towards the demands to know what happened to Lyanna, not the "abduction" itself. Um the whole thing screamed civil war, and yes he probably did lover seeing as to he crowned her love and beauty in front of his pregnant wife. He just used the prophecy and Elia's sickness as a excuse. Targaryens have long and blood history when it comes to mothers being different Maegor and Aenys were cousin brothers yet when Aenys died Maegor took his son's throne. Jon would be more powerful then Maegor, Aegon the III, and Daemon combined. His grandfather' Rickard, would push civil war to see his family on top. But going back to RR would Brandon have reason to go to the capital if not for Rhaegar, and if not him Oberyn or Robert would have. Because no one knew where he was and the first place you look for a kidnapper is his home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Me.(LALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING TO REASON I CANT HEAR YA)Just a little thing, imagine Oberyn and Brandon united against Rhaegar, as my friend said it would be *miracolo*! :drool: :drool: :drool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 What about Aegon V? His reign was filled with turmoil do to the lack of control he had over his sons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 His reign was filled with turmoil do to the lack of control he had over his sons. Was it? I don't remember anything about turmoils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 His reign was filled with turmoil do to the lack of control he had over his sons.not really. some nobles didn't like it that they missed out on potential unions, but he had a peaceful reign and the people loved him. Just a little thing, imagine Oberyn and Brandon united against Rhaegar, as my friend said it would be *miracolo*! :drool: :drool: :drool:Oberyn is the height of coolness, but Rhaegar.. sorry, there's no topping Rhaegar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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