The Wolf Maid, on Jul 21 2006, 10.43, said:
I forgot about that. Thanks for pointing that out. :D
Back to the question....Sansa would have done it for revenge because of Joff ordered Ned's beheading. Richard did it for spite for something that has NOT taken place. It'd say Sansa killing Joff has a more 'justifiable' reason than Richard doing so.
...Sound like Machiavelli. :D
Robb wasn't regularly beaten. He won every battle, but lost the war in a bedchamber.
And how could we know Ned killing Joff and the three kids could make things turn out better? Varys has hinted that Robert was doomed anyway, he was becoming too unmanagable. And regardless of the charge of incest, Tywin wouldn't have just let the killing of his blood pass. And I would bet there are Houses willing to go against Robert with Tywin, incest or not.
There's also a question of porportionality and meshing ends with means.
Joffrey has committed, or on his orders, has commited numerous crimes, including murder. He is now in a position of power to commit more as King. Also Joffrey makes a much better case for being a psychopath then Violet, who's mind was probably poisoned by her parents.
In the situation Violet is in, she can be nuetralized without being killed. She has not commited any crimes approaching the level that Joffrey has. In fact, is she or her parents and advisors the real threat? As near as I can tell, she has none of the power necessary to make her statements reality by herself.
Among other things, she could make a valuable hostage; however, morally questionable that may be, it is preferable to killing, and activity fully consonant with a quasi-Medieval fantasy setting. Just ask Theon Greyjoy:). Moreover, proper mental manipulation and an environment can alter Violet's ideology.
Of course, TG would choke on the last bit, so for him, I guess the moral thing is killing the girl.
I could see slapping the girl; that would be understandable, perhaps even a case for it being laudatory could be made.
But killing someone who ultimately is either not truly a threat, or can be easily countered and even made to serve one's own side over the long haul is morally unwise and foolish.
Edited by TLL17, 21 July 2006 - 11:20 AM.