Dany's Problem: Hizdahr

[Night's_King]

So Dany is married to Hizdahr zo Loraq. I for myself don't believe that he tried to poison her. That would be too obvious and too stupid of him.

How will she get rid of him? I can't picture Dany sitting on the IT with him as her husband and King. (Well, I can't picture her on the IT at all, but that's another story.)

My question is: Do you think he will be a problem? Will she get rid of him or will she stay married to him till the end? Or do you even think that Hizdahr tried to poison her?

I think the most obvious answer is that Victarion will kill him. What do you think?

[Leonardo]

It's pretty clear Hizdahr tried to poison her, didn't he basically admit it when Barristan cornered him?

[Lord Voldemort's Toes]

She'll just feed him to Drogon.

[Northernmonkey]

Killed by Victarion is my bet.

[SkaggCannibal]

It's pretty clear Hizdahr tried to poison her, didn't he basically admit it when Barristan cornered him?

There exist a very interesting blog "the meereenese blot" examining the Meereenese politics and Dany's role in it. It concludes with the Meereenese peace being real and the Shavepate as the actual poisoner, being the only one who had anything to gain with it. I'm not saying this is the truth, but a lot of people believe it to be the Shavepate.

I think Hizdahr will be killed, if not by Victarion, Dany could just as well do it herself when she comes back. Not that I think Dany is an evil person, but when she is convinced he was playing her all allong, maybe even trying to poison her, a death sentence only seems the right punishment.

[Victor227]

It's doubtful that Hizdahr was the poisoner. From the perspective that all the Meereenese are one-dimensinal stick-figures, sure, but he -needed- Dany alive. A hamfisted assasination would have just sent the freemen and Unsullied into turmoil, and undermined his own throne, which is... well, what actually happened! And Dany only went -missing- for it, and a dragon managed to make itself the highlight. Imagine how much more terrible it would have been if she had just dropped dead.

On the other hand, the Shavepate was the guy who actually -benefited- as it allowed him to retake power after Hizdahr dismissed him by using Barristan and Daenerys loyalists to carry out a coup. He was the guy telling her to break down the pyramids and take nobles hostage and break the power of the old families, which she constantly defied him in.

[bemused]

Hizdahr and the Green Grace are , I think , the culprits.. but I don't think they intended to kill Dany , just to cause her to abort . The symptoms suffered by Belwas are the same as symptoms caused by abortifacients.

H. and G.G. were very concerned about her affair with Daario. Though Hizdahr said he hoped they had conceived on their wedding night, he wouldn't have wanted Daario's child as his heir. Dany had refused to be examined by Hizdahr's female relations , which they probably had hoped might give a hint as to whether she was pregnant or not.

Eating the whole bowlful of locusts didn't kill Belwas . Dany could not have been expected to gobble the whole bowlful in public. The plan would have been designed to cause a miscarriage if she ate just a few.

Later, after eating the green berries , it appears she does abort.

Yes , I'm sure the Shavepate is ambitious , but I think many people give him a bum rap in this case.

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[Bittertea]

She must keep her flying bbqs well fed, who better than the man who tried to poison her as a light snack

[Mad Monkey]

The dragon must have three heads. Hizdahr can ride either Rhaegal or Viserion, and someone else (Tyrion? Jon Snow? Arya? Stannis?) can ride the other one.

Problem solved.

[aryagonnakill#2]

I doubt Hizdahr is alive when the battle is over, regardless of the outcome, regardless of whether or not the Shvepate even tries to seize control while they are fighting, everyone wants Hizddahr and Daario dead.

[Lady Blizzardborn]

I seem to recall ADWD including the Yunkai (or whoever is the current thorn in Dany's side) catapulting the corpses of pale mare victims into Meereen. Maybe the pale mare will kill Hizdahr.

aryagonnakill#2, Daario's body was one of those catapulted over the city walls. If he wasn't dead before that, the impact upon landing likely killed him.

[aryagonnakill#2]

I seem to recall ADWD including the Yunkai (or whoever is the current thorn in Dany's side) catapulting the corpses of pale mare victims into Meereen. Maybe the pale mare will kill Hizdahr.

aryagonnakill#2, Daario's body was one of those catapulted over the city walls. If he wasn't dead before that, the impact upon landing likely killed him.

GRRM confirmed it was plague victims, last I checked he did not say anything about Dario. If I am wrong let me know but unless GRRM said so I disagree, hostages have use, simple as that in my mind.

[JonCon's Red Beard]

Hizdahr and the Green Grace are , I think , the culprits.. but I don't think they intended to kill Dany , just to cause her to abort . The symptoms suffered by Belwas are the same as symptoms caused by abortifacients.

H. and G.G. were very concerned about her affair with Daario. Though Hizdahr said he hoped they had conceived on their wedding night, he wouldn't have wanted Daario's child as his heir. Dany had refused to be examined by Hizdahr's female relations , which they probably had hoped might give a hint as to whether she was pregnant or not.

Eating the whole bowlful of locusts didn't kill Belwas . Dany could not have been expected to gobble the whole bowlful in public. The plan would have been designed to cause a miscarriage if she ate just a few.

Later, after eating the green berries , it appears she does abort.

Yes , I'm sure the Shavepate is ambitious , but I think many people give him a bum rap in this case.

That's something I hadn't thought about and make sense. I wonder if Mirri Maz Duur's prophecy has nothing to do with her being barren but actually having incidents that would make her abort. After all, te whole prophecy isn't about her having children but the return of Drogo.

[Good Guy Garlan]

I think Hizdahr will be the "corpse tied to the prow of a ship" from the visions of the HotU, maybe after Vic kills him and decides to show it off by displaying it on his ship, or some similar kind of Ironborn nonsense

[joluoto2]

The whole poisoning thing: Hizdahr is stupid, but I doubt he's the poisoner. Neither was it the Harpy. I actually buy the theory that Hizdahr was the intended target (the poisoner knew well Dany wouldn't eat locusts), and we need to consider who would gain from Hizdahr being out of the picture. hizdahr brought the peace, so whoever tried to poison him wanted the peace to end. Yes, I'm looking at you Shavepate.

And the Green Grace is the Harpy. Hizdahr simply isn't smart enough. He was just a tool used by the Green Grace to force Dany to accept the return of many Mereenese customs, as well as a peace with Yunkai.

[Lady Blizzardborn]

GRRM confirmed it was plague victims, last I checked he did not say anything about Dario. If I am wrong let me know but unless GRRM said so I disagree, hostages have use, simple as that in my mind.

I'd have to check the book out again to be sure. I remember Daario and I think one of Dany's bloodriders being mentioned, as well as a third guy. Would have been in one of Barristan's chapters.

Edited to add: I might have this all mixed up. I read that one in kind of a rush.

[Nictarion]

I'd have to check the book out again to be sure. I remember Daario and I think one of Dany's bloodriders being mentioned, as well as a third guy. Would have been in one of Barristan's chapters.

The only named character killed was Groleo.

[Bright Blue Eyes]

I'd have to check the book out again to be sure. I remember Daario and I think one of Dany's bloodriders being mentioned, as well as a third guy. Would have been in one of Barristan's chapters.

As hostages. Not as ammunition.

[Aegon the Great]

Victarion will chop him in half.