Wmarshal Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Who do you think the Reachmen hate the most at the moment? Think what they would actually care about, past wars beliefs, and current relations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sullen Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 The Ironborn, no question about it. Everybody hates the Ironborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNinjaDC Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 The Ironborn, no question about it. Everybody hates the Ironborn. This, even Ironborn hate Ironborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 "My Lord, we're under attack!""Who dares to enter the Reach? I bet it's those damn dornishmen, isn't?""No, my lord... is the Iron Born""Damn Iron Born... at least they aren't from DUH-rne". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if Mace suspects the Dornish have a role in the Ironborn invasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I realized after reading this thread that nearly every region has come in conflict with the Ironborn before the Targaryens arrived. The only two that haven't seem to be Dorne and the Vale. No surprise that they're the most hated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sullen Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I realized after reading this thread that nearly every region has come in conflict with the Ironborn before the Targaryens arrived. The only two that haven't seem to be Dorne and the Vale. No surprise that they're the most hated. Well, the Ironborn DID have the largest kingdom in Westeros before Aegon burned them to smithereens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Well, the Ironborn DID have the largest kingdom in Westeros before Aegon burned them to smithereens.It's a pretty damn impressive feat too. Part of why I'm interested in learning more about the Hoares, even if they weren't the best people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of the West Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I think its though call but I would think that the Ironborn probably wins out if not by a great margine. The Dornish however seem to be the Enemy as opposed to just an enemy of the Reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlady B Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 The Ironborn, no question about it. Everybody hates the Ironborn. This, even Ironborn hate Ironborn. jajajaja :agree: only spare me some Vicky for me, and I am done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Monkey Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I don't really understand why the Dornish conflict is so important. It makes sense historically but I think it's overstated by some of the other characters. I even remember someone (Tyrion?) commenting that the Dornish conflict with the Lannisters over the rape and murder of Elia and her children is less severe than their rivalry with Highgarden -- which, if true, makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. I get that history is important and all, but how do you overlook a freakin pirate invasion or one of the most audacious crimes against your family in recent memory over something as petty as some ancient land dispute that no one alive even remembers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNinjaDC Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Well, the Ironborn DID have the largest kingdom in Westeros before Aegon burned them to smithereens. North was still larger, and the Reach as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joluoto2 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if Mace suspects the Dornish have a role in the Ironborn invasion. Someone will always find a reason to blame Dorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Gimp Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I don't really understand why the Dornish conflict is so important. It makes sense historically but I think it's overstated by some of the other characters. I even remember someone (Tyrion?) commenting that the Dornish conflict with the Lannisters over the rape and murder of Elia and her children is less severe than their rivalry with Highgarden -- which, if true, makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. I get that history is important and all, but how do you overlook a freakin pirate invasion or one of the most audacious crimes against your family in recent memory over something as petty as some ancient land dispute that no one alive even remembers? :agree: Tyrion says a couple illogical things in ACOK. This is an example, or saying that Stannis with his 5,000 men is a bigger threat than Renly with his 80,000+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Raven Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 This, even Ironborn hate Ironborn. :laugh: The Dornish just poke around the marches and call it a day. The Ironborn are a scourge for everyone. "We do not sow." Dude, learn to fucking sow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 :agree: Tyrion says a couple illogical things in ACOK. This is an example, or saying that Stannis with his 5,000 men is a bigger threat than Renly with his 80,000+ It could be because Stannis is more competent and ruthless. @Red Raven To be fair, the Iron Born really can't sow. That's why the Reader wanted to form an alliance with one of the other factions in exchange for land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeRhaegar Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 yea every one hates the iron born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I don't like the Reach at all. I hope Euron destroys as much as he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minstral Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I don't really understand why the Dornish conflict is so important. It makes sense historically but I think it's overstated by some of the other characters. I even remember someone (Tyrion?) commenting that the Dornish conflict with the Lannisters over the rape and murder of Elia and her children is less severe than their rivalry with Highgarden -- which, if true, makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. I get that history is important and all, but how do you overlook a freakin pirate invasion or one of the most audacious crimes against your family in recent memory over something as petty as some ancient land dispute that no one alive even remembers? The Martells hate the Lannisters for many good reasons, but all of Dorne and all of the Reach hold an enmity against each other. Look at how the Oakhearts keep tapestries of war that call back to conflicts against the Dornish; An Oakheart member surrounded by Dornish Skulls, another as a Kingsguard Oakheart dying with his king, and a third with another Oakheart blowing a war horn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTSTARK Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 the ironborn get no love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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