Nictarion Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Yeah. That was Ned being pissed at Robert, not the other way around. I would think if Robert was able, nothing could have stopped him from finding Lyanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Trell Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Very few soldiers in Westoros use anything besides the sword and lance. Just seems to be the way things work. Also, Robert can't have been too badly injured at the Trident. As mentioned he sent his personal maester to see to Barristan. His sending Ned on to King's Landing with only his Northern cavalry was about getting there as fast as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 That was Ned being pissed at Robert, not the other way around. I would think if Robert was able, nothing could have stopped him from finding Lyanna. You wondered why Ned didn't bring Bobby for that is the reason why, and remember, Ned went to find Lyanna after freeing up Stannis, he did not go back to bring Robert along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 What about not going to the ToJ though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 What about not going to the ToJ though? How would Robert know where to go? Ned and the KG was the only ones who knew where to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Very few soldiers commanders in Westoros use anything besides the sword and lance. Just seems to be the way things work. Fixed. In actual battle (not on patrol or something), we have seen way, way more maces, flails or axes than swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 This a pointless argument. Rhaegar injured Robert on the Trident, that's the point. How bad is not in the book. But it certainly dispels the alternate version of the story some seem to remember, where Robert ended the fight before it began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Trell Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Fixed. In actual battle (not on patrol or something), we have seen way, way more maces, flails or axes than swords. Yeah, originally typed 'knights' but didn't want to exclude guys like Sandor and the Northmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaNymeriaVisenya Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Rhaegar was an idiot and Robert was an enraged beast. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frosted King Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 This a pointless argument. Rhaegar injured Robert on the Trident, that's the point. How bad is not in the book. But it certainly dispels the alternate version of the story some seem to remember, where Robert ended the fight before it began.Robert had an entire year of fighting wear and tear upon his body.Rhaegar had extensively worked his pelvic thrust in the same time frame.I'd wager had both been fresh, Robert would've blown him away decisively. Just a beast in battle.He nearly slew a decent warrior in Jon Conn while wounded, and with a sword, his secondary weapon.You don't get that skill merely in training. Its a gift.Prime Robert i give the edge to against any warrior of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 I actually forgot that Rhaeggy managed to wound Bobby when they were duking it out. In retrospect it is also possible that Rhaegar was expected to lead the troops against the usurper and Robert simply sought him out on the battlefield for personal reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Robert had an entire year of fighting wear and tear upon his body.Rhaegar had extensively worked his pelvic thrust in the same time frame.I'd wager had both been fresh, Robert would've blown him away decisively. Just a beast in battle.He nearly slew a decent warrior in Jon Conn while wounded, and with a sword, his secondary weapon.You don't get that skill merely in training. Its a gift.Prime Robert i give the edge to against any warrior of the day.You can Marq Grafton, Lord Fell, and Myles Mooton to the list. Of course we don't know their skill set. But I agree with this. Rhaegar was fresh, Robert was not. That's not to say that Rhaegar isn't skilled. I do think he was talented, but as Barristan said, he never really loved the song of swords. Guys like Barristan, Robert, and Jaime feel more alive in battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Prime Robert i give the edge to against any warrior of the day.Too bad he didn't keep himself very "prime" for long, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frosted King Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Doesn't change the fact that let it be any man aside from Greg Clegane, Robert's got the edge imo.Barristan, Arthur, Jaime, Garlan, Loras etc.Clegane is my deal breaker merely because he deals extremely well with pain, and he's the only one strong enough to deal with the pain of Roberts blows with the hammer, take it from him and use it against him.I can't see any of the pretty boys being quite so gutter in a fight, and thats what it would take.Course, Clegane would ruin his body in the effort, but a win is a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 Too bad he didn't keep himself very "prime" for long, lol. Except for the prime ribs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melisandros Megas Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 We only have anecdotal information regarding that fight anyway. I don't think Robert would have bested Rhaegar in a fair fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forfax Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 He injured Robert severly enough but... I like to think he was somewhat distracted maybe, but if anything I don't fault him for bringing a sword I fault him for not bringing The Sword of the Morning Ser Arthur Dayne with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Now Robert beat Rhaegar in an unfair fight? lol. The fight was on horseback, and that's Rhaegar's specialty right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 We only have anecdotal information regarding that fight anyway. I don't think Robert would have bested Rhaegar in a fair fight. How so? Rhaegar never been in a real fight in his life, where Bobby fought in Melees and was part of a war for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Trell Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 We only have anecdotal information regarding that fight anyway. I don't think Robert would have bested Rhaegar in a fair fight. Why do you think this? What about the Trident was unfair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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