War of the five kings battle at Bravos? (Spoilers)

[geogus]

Im wondering, could we see some kind of war of the five kings-related battle at Bravos?

We now know that Harys Swyft is at the Bravos as the master of the coin of the iron throne, an very important guest (something like a foreign minister)

He has his own personal guard, most likely a small army to protect his person (since he is in a important mission for the IT) and maybe his own ship.

It happens that Justin Massey is heading to Bravos as well, to spend the money the Iron Bank lended King Stannis hiring merceneries.

He will probably have his personal guard, maybe some mercenaries to protect him.

Most lilkely they will know about each others presence at Bravos. They will both know they will be performing missions to help his sides to win the war.

Most lilely, they will try to make the other fail in their missions.

Will Justin Massey and Harys Swyft battle at Braavos?

It could be possible Bravos will be forced to pick sides?

[AdmiraloftheDothrakiSea]

Not really gonna be a battle but i do picture a skirmish of sorts. Harys Swyft is a moron and old most likely he will die. The Mountain's men aren't good for much other than raping and pillaging so Justin Massey and his escort will kill them

[conon394]

Seems like they could use the dueling rules to fight at night and I can see where the Mountains men might well be better at tit for tat back street fighting at night.

[Mrmanakan]

I don't know we haven't seen Massey fight stannis made him sound atleast decent at swordplay. And the mountains seem all viciousness and no tactic.

Massey gets to pick his six men too so I doubt he'll pick slouches. Plus swyft is down a man, and what good is swyft in a fight.

Won't be a "battle in bravos" maybe more like a tourney of the 7 the way dunk and egg had it

[Harold II]

Bravos will be a blackhole into which Westerosi characters fall into and disappear. Care of Arya.

[Pod The Impaler]

I don't know we haven't seen Massey fight stannis made him sound atleast decent at swordplay. And the mountains seem all viciousness and no tactic.

Massey gets to pick his six men too so I doubt he'll pick slouches. Plus swyft is down a man, and what good is swyft in a fight.

Asha did not think too highly of him, nor many others.

[Mrmanakan]

She did towards the end. Not at first but after awhile she did. Like when he took her to the feast hall away from she bear she felt for him and seemed to like him after that point atleast liked him more than the other queen/kings men

[Bright Blue Eyes]

Asha did not think too highly of him, nor many others.

Asha has absolutely zero indication of his skills either way: She didn't witness him in battle or tourney, nor would she have heard of a young knight the other side of the continent.

[geogus]

Most likely Harys Swyft will notice Iron Bank is finnancing Stannis so he can hire Mercs.

Will Swyft be able to do something to prevent or spoil it

[joluoto2]

1) Harys Swyft is a moron, he won't get any support in Braavos

2) Harys Swyft doesn't take his mission seriously

3) Harys Swyft is in no hurry home, he knows he'll probably lose his head if he comes back after a failed mission. Also he apparently has a fat wife he doesn't like at all.

Conclusion: Swytft will probably just hang out with the courtesans and enjoy the taverns and Wine cellars of Braavos. If he runs into Massey, even a dork like JM would realize Swyft is even more a loser than he is. Also Massey wouldn't care about Swyft since Swyft is a man, and Massey thus can't marry him.

Edit: I can actually see Massey and Swyft getting well along. Just sitting at the tavern, drinking some good Myrish wine and hitting on women, while forgetting their missions.

[CyberKlown28]

If Braavos had to choose, I'd say they'd pick Stannis. They know he'll work at paying their debt back if he becoems King, while the current throne is a mess and only asking for more money!

[aryagonnakill#2]

Could be interesting to see if Massey shows up with Tycho Nestoris and the Bravosi find out the IB is backing Stannis. The moode could sour on Swyft really quickly and they could be forced to flee Bravos, que Arya's secret entrance?

[Giorgio Corrado]

I wonder how long will the IB continue too support Stannis? Could we see the IB looking to hedge their investments by looking to offer financial support to Dany's claim to the Iron Throne? After all Stannis is still at the wall dealing with Bolton, Wildings and the Others not to mention the fact Stannis will soon need to take Winterfell.

[aryagonnakill#2]

I wonder how long will the IB continue too support Stannis? Could we see the IB looking to hedge their investments by looking to offer financial support to Dany's claim to the Iron Throne? After all Stannis is still at the wall dealing with Bolton, Wildings and the Others not to mention the fact Stannis will soon need to take Winterfell.

I have posted this before, and not everyone has agreed with my logic, but I do not think Dany, or Aegon would agree to pay Robert, and Joffrey, and Tommens debts. It would be the same as acknowledging their rule as legitimate.

[The Idle Raven]

I don't think that there will be a battle, some pushing shoving and a few deaths maybe, but the Sealord, iron Bank, FM etc aren't going to tolerate someone else's war turning up on their streets. Both Massey and Swift need a sympathetic hearing. If they and there entourages are going to encounter each other it's going to be at the Sealord's palace or the Iron Bank. Both locations are likely to be well guarded and even then visits by the rival delegations will probably be staggered by the Braavosi specifically to avoid a confrontation.

[Giorgio Corrado]

The Braavosi are like the Swiss they won't get involved in the war other then being the bankers for both sides and the place where you hire mercenaries. If there is any killing that needs to be done it will be done covertly and not in public.

[Makk]

The Braavosi are like the Swiss they won't get involved in the war other then being the bankers for both sides and the place where you hire mercenaries. If there is any killing that needs to be done it will be done covertly and not in public.

I thought that if you wear a sword in Bravos you are a fair target for a public attack at night. I don't think anyone would care.

[juanml82]

I wonder how long will the IB continue too support Stannis? Could we see the IB looking to hedge their investments by looking to offer financial support to Dany's claim to the Iron Throne? After all Stannis is still at the wall dealing with Bolton, Wildings and the Others not to mention the fact Stannis will soon need to take Winterfell.

Maybe. Danny, IMO, will be divisive for the Braavosi, be them government or other organizations, for two things: in the plus side, antislavery agenda, which is good for Braavosi ideology and business. On the con side: dragons.

Military speaking, if Daennerys reaches the Narrow Sea with a fleet, an army ranging at least in the 10-20k (logistics are her issue at this point, not the size of the army she can recruit), three dragons and maybe potential allies in Westeros, she will look as a more promising candidate than Stannis. And Daennerys might not want to honor Robert's debts, but she can see the convenience in having the kind of financial support the Iron Bank can provide.

I thought that if you wear a sword in Bravos you are a fair target for a public attack at night. I don't think anyone would care.

Yup, agreed. As long as they aren't fighting in official premises of some sort, the Sealord will just wash his hands. First post also? Welcome.

What I can see, for precisely that reason, is the Iron Bank providing Massey with an escort of his own and advisors who understand who things work in Braavos. I can also see Swift deserting his mission until he feels it's safe to return to Westeros (ie, after the war) pretending he did everything he can/he sabotaged the Lannisters depending on who wins.

[geogus]

1) Harys Swyft is a moron, he won't get any support in Braavos

2) Harys Swyft doesn't take his mission seriously

3) Harys Swyft is in no hurry home, he knows he'll probably lose his head if he comes back after a failed mission. Also he apparently has a fat wife he doesn't like at all.

Conclusion: Swytft will probably just hang out with the courtesans and enjoy the taverns and Wine cellars of Braavos. If he runs into Massey, even a dork like JM would realize Swyft is even more a loser than he is. Also Massey wouldn't care about Swyft since Swyft is a man, and Massey thus can't marry him.

Edit: I can actually see Massey and Swyft getting well along. Just sitting at the tavern, drinking some good Myrish wine and hitting on women, while forgetting their missions.

Swyft might be a morn, as u Say,, and not a good figther, but who says he needs to do the fightinh himself.

He can just command his men to attack Justin Massey, which I imagine will have a smaller guard (if mercenaries are not hired at this time).

Besides that, lets not forget that the men protecting Swyft were Gregr Clagane men, it means, hard veteran troops with taste for blood

[Brother Seamus]

Could be interesting to see if Massey shows up with Tycho Nestoris and the Bravosi find out the IB is backing Stannis. The moode could sour on Swyft really quickly and they could be forced to flee Bravos, que Arya's secret entrance?

it didn't occur to me that the IB would be acting independently of the government/sealord/ruling elite. I suspect we'll learn along the way that the IB and the government of Braavos are inextricable. that's why I've assumed swift will be walking away empty handed (or maybe they'll give hima token loan to conceal their support of stannis, but anyway . . .). cersei told them to piss off, so they had no choice but to put their money on stannis if they ever want to be repaid.