Darth Richard II Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I'm not the one saying it. GRRM is. Is this thing on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Lord Tywin seems very similar to Druon's Philip the Fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ned Stark is basically a carbon copy of Leto Atreides, and there is a ton of other stuff in Dune that obviously heavily influenced GRRM.IMO, Jessica has much in common with Catelyn. I thought of Dune as soon as I read of Catelyn getting the warning in a secret language from Lysa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cry_Havoc Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I think I may have found an inspiration for Tyrion in Mario Vargas Llosa's 1981 novel, The War of the End of the World. Early in the novel we're introduced to a character named Felicio who is described as having "very short legs and an enormous head." He is the youngest son of the Pardinas family in Natuba similar to Tyrion being Tywin's youngest child. He is further described as having a "keen intelligence, a mind eager to know everything and capable, once a piece of knowledge had gone into that massive head that made people laugh of retaining it forever." He knows several languages and was taught some religion. Tyrion, if I remember correctly, considered joining the faith and we are well aware of his intelligence. His physical appearance made the people of Natuba uneasy. In fact they began, "to murmur among themselves that he had not been fathered by the horsebreaker but by the Devil." This could be an interesting parallel if we consider the classic appearance of a devil with horns and a tail. Tyrion is often referred to as the Imp and there are several references of him and gargoyles. Devils, imps, and gargoyles are similar in their grotesque. I am likely reaching at this point, but I think that we can draw parallels with Felicio and Tyrion's fathers. As stated above, Felico's father was a horsebreaker or someone who breaks or tames a horse. Tywin is constantly seen breaking others to his will. House Reyne rebelled against the then perceived weak Tytos. Tywin set an example and eradicated House Reyne in response and thereby broke other houses to the will of the Lannisters and ensuring their loyalty. Oh, and Felicio is commonly referred to as The LION of Natuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 is this a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cry_Havoc Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Not it wasn't, but feel free to make all the fun you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Tyrion is obviously based 100 percent on Warwick Davis' Willow character. I mean they're both short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 The Red Comet is obviously an allusion to the classic zombie horror film Night of the Comet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ygrain Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I haven't read Les Rois Maudit, only watched the TV series, but even so, the similarities are pretty obvious. Baby swap where the substitute dies instead of the prince? An elderly lady performs a subtle public poisoning? The main schemer uses a woman in love with him to poison someone close to her, and then she is offed herself? A trial of unfaithful royal wives? The common elements are quite a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 the zombie apocalypse stuff is plainly stolen from resident evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Richter Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd & Gray Mouser stories. You can see the similarity in the Dunk & Egg stories & Brienne and Pod. GRRM, Patrick Rothfuss and Neil Gaiman have all pointed to Fritz as an early influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Typical, i started to read these books because of that article only to find that the final one hasnt been translated. is GRRM winding me up? Is it not enough waiting for his work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thung Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Ned Stark is basically a carbon copy of Leto Atreides, and there is a ton of other stuff in Dune that obviously heavily influenced GRRM. I thought the exact same thing when reading GOT. I am was really surprised that GRRM has not attributed Dune more often as an influence. The parallels are uncanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thung Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 IMO, Jessica has much in common with Catelyn. I thought of Dune as soon as I read of Catelyn getting the warning in a secret language from Lysa. Roose Bolton is similar to Vladimir Harkonan as is Ramsay snow and Beast Rabbun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I thought the exact same thing when reading GOT. I am was really surprised that GRRM has not attributed Dune more often as an influence. The parallels are uncanny.Probably GRRM and Frank Herbert had common influences.Paul has much in common with Daenerys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night's_King Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn. I don't see any other book that could have had more influence on the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End of Disc One Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 GoT was heavily inspired by ASoIaF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lol Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Dire Wolves were real. So are dragons, have you heard of the komodo dragon Real life direwolves were nothing like the book direwolves, beside the fact that they were both wolves, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterbound Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 So are dragons, have you heard of the komodo dragon Real life direwolves were nothing like the book direwolves, beside the fact that they were both wolves, Ya Bob! Dragons for fuck's sake, and Direwolves! Real life shit here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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