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Could Tommen and Myrcella outlive Cersei?


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Golden will be their crowns and shrouds. Theoretically sweet Tommen wears his crown right now and one-eared Myrcell was crowned by Arianne. What if Brienne would kill Jaime for she shouted sword and that's would make our beloved Cersei cry. Or she already has cried because of Joffrey so this could refer to the prophecy as well. And golden shrouds doesn't meant that they'll die before Cersei. Maggie coulda constructed Cersei's future in the most wicked way possible. ( Be nice that's my first day here)

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The old woman was not done with her, however. "Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds," she said. "And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you."

A Shroud isnt specialy for burial so yes they could outlive Cercei.

This prophecy hold multiple explainations:

"Gold shall be their crowns" could mean they will all have blond hair or could mean they will all be King/Queen or could mean that their power come from gold (instead of loyalty, bloodline law, religion, strenght, etc). And I am sure we could find others.

"and gold their shrouds", could mean that gold (kinship/gold/goldhair=bastard/etc) will be either their demise or the things that will hide/cloak/corrupt them.

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Prophecies don't necessarily fulfil all the time. They can be challenged. Maggy's prophecy, though, seems to be the type that becomes true do to the other's actions, not because it's some foreign fate. The things she fears the most are things she has done. She says she'll have three kids and the King, sixteen. Yet, she doesn't do anything to avoid getting pregnant by her brother and having at least one kid of his. Apparently, she forgot the prophecy at that time or didn't realise it was a big coincidence. The Valonqar part she has it clear, though.

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I honestly think that they might both outlive their mother. There is nothing in the prophecy which makes the chronology of events clear, and (though I have no hard facts to prove it), I think Magy the frog purposefully phraised the prophecy to freek Cersie out after Joffrey's wedding.


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It is possible, but not likely. The twist of the prophecy will probably be the identity of the valonquar, the other things will happen as they were stated, so I have the feeling that they will die before Cersei. I do think that the shroud in the prophecy refers to their deaths. Tommen is doomed, because it was already stated that more people will sit on the Iron Throne, so he will probably die in the next book. I have no clue what will happen to Myrcella, maybe she will be presumed dead while she is still alive somewhere. In that case Cersei, at the point of her own death, would still assume that all of her children have died.


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The prophecy hasn't been quite fulfilled yet: Myrcella still hasn't worn a golden crown (as far as I remember, but I could be wrong) and I don't see her anyone trying to crown her again considering the mess it caused the first time.



And in Jaime's weirwood dream he only saw Joffrey amongst the possibly dead Lannisters, not Tommen and Myrcella (granted he didn't see Kevan either, but maybe he didn't care about him that much)



Oh, I know I'm delusional, but let me have my moment in the sun :bawl:


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The prophecy hasn't been quite fulfilled yet: Myrcella still hasn't worn a golden crown (as far as I remember, but I could be wrong) and I don't see her anyone trying to crown her again considering the mess it caused the first time.

And in Jaime's weirwood dream he only saw Joffrey amongst the possibly dead Lannisters, not Tommen and Myrcella (granted he didn't see Kevan either, but maybe he didn't care about him that much)

Oh, I know I'm delusional, but let me have my moment in the sun :bawl:

If Darkstar used poison on his sword, as Oberyn did. She could be already dead by now.

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