Secto Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Golden will be their crowns and shrouds. Theoretically sweet Tommen wears his crown right now and one-eared Myrcell was crowned by Arianne. What if Brienne would kill Jaime for she shouted sword and that's would make our beloved Cersei cry. Or she already has cried because of Joffrey so this could refer to the prophecy as well. And golden shrouds doesn't meant that they'll die before Cersei. Maggie coulda constructed Cersei's future in the most wicked way possible. ( Be nice that's my first day here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Sansa Stark Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 It is plausible, but the chance is slim I am afraid :(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDNight Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I think one or both easily could. Cersei is not long for the world. She has way too many things to hide and the death of her father will bring her world crashing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Certainly. Prophecy isn't a guaranteed fact, nor is Maggy's prophecy very clear. But not for long. The Lannisters go down, hard. Which leaves Tommen and Myrcella a traitorous King and his heir for a very, very despised regime. They'll be ...removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJack Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 The old woman was not done with her, however. "Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds," she said. "And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you."A Shroud isnt specialy for burial so yes they could outlive Cercei.This prophecy hold multiple explainations:"Gold shall be their crowns" could mean they will all have blond hair or could mean they will all be King/Queen or could mean that their power come from gold (instead of loyalty, bloodline law, religion, strenght, etc). And I am sure we could find others."and gold their shrouds", could mean that gold (kinship/gold/goldhair=bastard/etc) will be either their demise or the things that will hide/cloak/corrupt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Prophecies don't necessarily fulfil all the time. They can be challenged. Maggy's prophecy, though, seems to be the type that becomes true do to the other's actions, not because it's some foreign fate. The things she fears the most are things she has done. She says she'll have three kids and the King, sixteen. Yet, she doesn't do anything to avoid getting pregnant by her brother and having at least one kid of his. Apparently, she forgot the prophecy at that time or didn't realise it was a big coincidence. The Valonqar part she has it clear, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frosted King Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I sure hope not.She needs to feel what Catelyn Stark felt before she dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJack Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I sure hope not.She needs to feel what Catelyn Stark felt before she dies.Isnt that the way vilains think in most revenge story?"You will die to pay for your great-great-father crimes, mhouahahahahah" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagon Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Whenever something seems obvious, I expect the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Colak Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I honestly think that they might both outlive their mother. There is nothing in the prophecy which makes the chronology of events clear, and (though I have no hard facts to prove it), I think Magy the frog purposefully phraised the prophecy to freek Cersie out after Joffrey's wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys Reborn Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 They will not outlive Cersei. "And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you." Why would her tears drown her if her kids were alive? Makes no sense. Tommen and Myrcella are doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarieAntoinette Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 It is possible, but not likely. The twist of the prophecy will probably be the identity of the valonquar, the other things will happen as they were stated, so I have the feeling that they will die before Cersei. I do think that the shroud in the prophecy refers to their deaths. Tommen is doomed, because it was already stated that more people will sit on the Iron Throne, so he will probably die in the next book. I have no clue what will happen to Myrcella, maybe she will be presumed dead while she is still alive somewhere. In that case Cersei, at the point of her own death, would still assume that all of her children have died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The prophecy hasn't been quite fulfilled yet: Myrcella still hasn't worn a golden crown (as far as I remember, but I could be wrong) and I don't see her anyone trying to crown her again considering the mess it caused the first time. And in Jaime's weirwood dream he only saw Joffrey amongst the possibly dead Lannisters, not Tommen and Myrcella (granted he didn't see Kevan either, but maybe he didn't care about him that much) Oh, I know I'm delusional, but let me have my moment in the sun :bawl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJack Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The prophecy hasn't been quite fulfilled yet: Myrcella still hasn't worn a golden crown (as far as I remember, but I could be wrong) and I don't see her anyone trying to crown her again considering the mess it caused the first time. And in Jaime's weirwood dream he only saw Joffrey amongst the possibly dead Lannisters, not Tommen and Myrcella (granted he didn't see Kevan either, but maybe he didn't care about him that much) Oh, I know I'm delusional, but let me have my moment in the sun :bawl: If Darkstar used poison on his sword, as Oberyn did. She could be already dead by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 If Darkstar used poison on his sword, as Oberyn did. She could be already dead by now. Yeah, I actually suscribe to that theory. Doesn't make it less sad, though :crying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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