Night's_King Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 At first sight, his Dragons seem pretty average. They have average size (They are a lot smaller than Tolkiens Dragons, but can grow bigger than Saphira (Inheritance) or Draco (Dragonheart). They walk on two legs and have wings. They breath fire and have scales harder than iron. On second sights, there are some special things about them. 1. Their fire can have different colours. Drogon breaths black fire, for example. 2. Their bones are black, due to the high iron content. 3. They can change their sex. 4. The special bond. Thoughts? Do you have other examples of things, which seperate them from other Dragons in Fantasy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 At first sight, his Dragons seem pretty average. They have average size (They are a lot smaller than Tolkiens Dragons, but can grow bigger than Saphira (Inheritance) or Draco (Dragonheart). They walk on two legs and have wings. They breath fire and have scales harder than iron. On second sights, there are some special things about them. 1. Their fire can have different colours. Drogon breaths black fire, for example. 2. Their bones are black, due to the high iron content. 3. They can change their sex. 4. The special bond. Thoughts? Do you have other examples of things, which seperate them from other Dragons in Fantasy? They aren't misunderstood creatures with high intelligence, mess with them they would eat you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night's_King Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 They aren't misunderstood creatures with high intelligence, mess with them they would eat you. Ah, forgot that. And: They can't speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleFinger Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 They can be killed by happenstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinso Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I think that one of the things that makes them special is that, well, they're special. As in, this is a world that is not populated by many fantastical creatures and so the dragons stand out. Also, after reading the short story about the Dance of the Dragons, it seems that in the past the dragons were seen as merely beasts of war. Useful and fearsome in their own right, but nothing more. Very much unlike dragons in high fantasy like Tolkien's where they are both majestic and awe-inspiring - to the Targaryens of old the dragons were just a means to an end, dangerous beasts to use against enemies, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Who says they are smaller than Tolkien's dragons?Balerion could swallow a mammoth whole, and there were Valyrian dragons even bigger than Balerion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chatty Duelist Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Who says they are smaller than Tolkien's dragons?Balerion could swallow a mammoth whole, and there were Valyrian dragons even bigger than Balerion. Heh, Ancalagon the Black was a fuck huge thing the size of mountains. Smaug would outsize Balerion and has more power to boot with + intelligence and hypnotizing eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night's_King Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Heh, Ancalagon the Black was a fuck huge thing the size of mountains. Smaug would outsize Balerion and has more power to boot with + intelligence and hypnotizing eyes. Ancalagon was even bigger then mountains. When he was killed and fell on middle earth, his buld broke a volcanic mountain range! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleFinger Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Heh, Ancalagon the Black was a fuck huge thing the size of mountains. Smaug would outsize Balerion and has more power to boot with + intelligence and hypnotizing eyes. Ya, even just reading the Silmarillion you can tell the dragons are different, Glaurung is like a melevolent sociopath who happens to be a dragon, while the dragons we encounter seem to be wild beasts that answer to only one person if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShirt47 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Dragons seem to have some effect on magic, the warlocks in Qarth mentioned that magic was getting stronger due to the dragons being nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Pedant Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 For me is that fact that they are presented first and foremost as animals - and, even better, as extinct animals. They are magical animals, for sure, but they are mostly animals. Hence all the worries about how to feed them, what to do while they are still too small, how to control them, etc. They are not just magical entities that have a specific set of extraordinary powers. They seem real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Ancalagon was even bigger then mountains. When he was killed and fell on middle earth, his buld broke a volcanic mountain range! Smaug in the books was estimated to be between 18m-20m long (That's how big he was in a hand drawing Tolkien made of him). A mere fraction of Balerion's size. The size of Ancalagon is never stated, but stories like "His fall from the sky shattered the Towers of Thangorodrim" are most likely hyperbole and metaphor. To really shatter a mountain range, he would have to be miles long, and that is not really plausible. Most likely he was Balerion sized. And Balerion himself appears to have been around Godzilla sized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Smaug in the books was estimated to be between 18m-20m long (That's how big he was in a hand drawing Tolkien made of him). A mere fraction of Balerion's size. The size of Ancalagon is never stated, but stories like "His fall from the sky shattered the Towers of Thangorodrim" are most likely hyperbole and metaphor. To really shatter a mountain range, he would have to be miles long, and that is not really plausible. Most likely he was Balerion sized. And Balerion himself appears to have been around Godzilla sized. Smaug WASN'T 20m long. That's for sure. At least, 30-35m. At least. And Ancalagon was, in fact, big as hell, far bigger than any dragon ever written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Smaug WASN'T 20m long. That's for sure. At least, 30-35m. At least. And Ancalagon was, in fact, big as hell, far bigger than any dragon ever written. In Tolkien's drawing of him, he was 20m long, more or less. Future adaptations enlarged him significantly, it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Heath Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I think it's said that he reduced the mountains into piles of slag. Of course Tolkien wrote it like an ancient mythology, so it the mountains were smaller than regular ones, I also think they were artificial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night's_King Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Smaug in the books was estimated to be between 18m-20m long (That's how big he was in a hand drawing Tolkien made of him). A mere fraction of Balerion's size. The size of Ancalagon is never stated, but stories like "His fall from the sky shattered the Towers of Thangorodrim" are most likely hyperbole and metaphor. To really shatter a mountain range, he would have to be miles long, and that is not really plausible. Most likely he was Balerion sized. And Balerion himself appears to have been around Godzilla sized. You know that we are talking about fantasy, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 In Tolkien's drawing of him, he was 20m long, more or less. Future adaptations enlarged him significantly, it appears. True, but the text says clearly NO to that picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Lmao, being big enough to shatter a mountain isn't really plausible.But orcs, elves, hobbits, wizards, gods that can't die, men that live for hundreds of years or even forever, mystical fire demons, all tooooootally plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGpanther Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Tolkien dragons were cunning but when it came time to pull off their plans they came up short cause they werent as intelligent as they thought.Targaryen dragons to me are like War horses, only if you dont tame them correctly they will eat you.Woulda loved to see Valayria before the doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Lmao, being big enough to shatter a mountain isn't really plausible.But orcs, elves, hobbits, wizards, gods that can't die, men that live for hundreds of years or even forever, mystical fire demons, all tooooootally plausible. The Balrog that fell into Moria was also said to shatter the mountain when it landed. There is some magical release of energy that is in excess of the actual force of the impact of the falling creature, quite clearly. Ancalagon being 5 miles long would make him out of context large compared to the Great Eagles and other forces that slew him. Going from Smaug at even 30m, to Ancalagon at 5 miles long is kind of silly. More likely he was Godzilla sized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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