Ranzadule Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 In relistening to the books, I realized this week that Martin set me up! He introduced Victarion Greyjoy as "The Reaver" and the story kicked ass at a time when all of Westeros was falling apart. I liked Victarion instantly. Then he brings home the Crow's Eye and I hated him like Republicans hate Democrats and Yankee fans hate Sox fans. This time around I realized that Victarion is not so great and I am glad the Crow's Eye wins. While Victarion has been in familiar waters, beating down fools and being all Viking-like, which is fine, Euron has been balling D&D Style, hit Name-Level and is claiming his Kingdom. I like Euron now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGpanther Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Euron is awesome! He is going to do somthing major in WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Walton Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Agreed KINGpanther, think Euron is going to be a major player in WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furiousmoose Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Euron has something up his sleave I think. Remember he claims to have been to Valyria. If thats true he is one of the only ones to have done so since the Doom. Might be he found more than just the dragon horn.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teotsi21 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 euron is gonna play quite a role. Honestly, there are so many options here, that Martin will have to write 2 alternate endings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinso Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I think that both Victarion and Euron are set up to play relatively important roles. Euron seems like a guy with quite a vigor and dash... but there is a possibility that are all the awesome tales about his adventures may be somewhat inflated. He claims to have gone to Valyria, to have defeated and enslaved sorcerors, to have possesed a dragon egg and whatnot... but we have only his word for it - quite literally only his, since all his men are mutes. So I have my doubts, but my gut is telling me that he has something up his sleeve.Actually, recently I thought about him and his idea to send Victarion to bring him Dany... and it struck me as an incredibly stupid idea. I mean, if I was Euron, I'd never trust Victarion with such an important mission - Euron must know that his brother hates his guts and, indeed, Victarion decides to betray him, what, 5 minutes later? So either the Crow's Eye is very gullible, or he has something up his sleeve. As to Victarion, he really grew on me in ADWD. The guy is completely ruthless and a brute, but he oozes cool. The recent development, with the magic arm and all, really set him up for quite a role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furiousmoose Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I think that both Victarion and Euron are set up to play relatively important roles. Euron seems like a guy with quite a vigor and dash... but there is a possibility that are all the awesome tales about his adventures may be somewhat inflated. He claims to have gone to Valyria, to have defeated and enslaved sorcerors, to have possesed a dragon egg and whatnot... but we have only his word for it - quite literally only his, since all his men are mutes. So I have my doubts, but my gut is telling me that he has something up his sleeve.Actually, recently I thought about him and his idea to send Victarion to bring him Dany... and it struck me as an incredibly stupid idea. I mean, if I was Euron, I'd never trust Victarion with such an important mission - Euron must know that his brother hates his guts and, indeed, Victarion decides to betray him, what, 5 minutes later? So either the Crow's Eye is very gullible, or he has something up his sleeve. As to Victarion, he really grew on me in ADWD. The guy is completely ruthless and a brute, but he oozes cool. The recent development, with the magic arm and all, really set him up for quite a role. The only thing your post informed me of is my misspelling of sleeve (knew it was wrong...). I agree with you 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Shaggydog Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Victarion is kind of hard to hate - he is pretty dumb but definitely honest and a unique POV. Now that he has (as I picture it) a Hellboy type arm, he is even more interesting. I still think he's definitely being played here by his brother - we're talking a Ned/LF type of relationship. Once Vic thinks he is making a move Euron won't anticipate, he is truly lost. You really think Euron sends him that far away to fetch a bride to bring back? And Euron doesnt realize Vic might just try and take her for himself? I don't know his game plan, but i don't see Vic being ahead of him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khalhotpie Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Victarion is kind of hard to hate - he is pretty dumb but definitely honest and a unique POV. Now that he has (as I picture it) a Hellboy type arm, he is even more interesting. I still think he's definitely being played here by his brother - we're talking a Ned/LF type of relationship. Once Vic thinks he is making a move Euron won't anticipate, he is truly lost. You really think Euron sends him that far away to fetch a bride to bring back? And Euron doesnt realize Vic might just try and take her for himself? I don't know his game plan, but i don't see Vic being ahead of him here. His priest sees him as critical, i think he protects dany from euron I think when he makes his move agaisnt euron hel be of course outsmarted and humilated somehow, hel also come home to an ironislands full of death as euron purges the dampheir uprising. Hel meet with ashsa (whol escape stannis somehow but will be bitter having had to watch her brother andm maybe some friends die) They will spring a coup and in some epic GRMM foreshadowing vic will throw euron out a window with his freak arm ''well brother........ now u have ur awnser ... can u fly? '' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wedding Cake Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I can only imagine Theon's hatred when he returns home to his uncles playing with horns... those damned horns of Winterfell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khalhotpie Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Its when u reread the ironborn chapters do u realise how many badasses they actualy havevic: big but simple armour clad killing machine now with smoking kung fu death grip andrik the unsmiling: the best of the ironborn , said to be a giant of a man with huge arms. I picture this dude as being a lil bigger than the hound but not quite as big as the mountain. The cool thing is as a captain of house drumm he could be given one of the ironborns 2 valyrian swords !! harras harlaw: valyrian blade + greysheild battle : nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranzadule Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 I am looking forward to the Victarion chapters almost as much as I am those of Arya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I think Euron will launch a risky but brilliant attack on Oldtown, but fails do to info he was ignorant of, Aegon coming. As for Victarion, I think he will use the horn to mount Rhaegal, and rule Meereen for a while as the head until Dany comes back. However, after killing Hizdhar, Daario, and likely Barristan and Jorah who tried to stop him, Dany will have Drogon kill Victarion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Victarion is kind of hard to hate - he is pretty dumb but definitely honest and a unique POV. . Agree. I like Victarion more than Euron. He's honest and he's been fucked up by his brother, yet, he still is loyal to him. Until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaman Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 yeah I like Euron, but I don't want him to end up 'winning' I just want him to fuck shit up for lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranzadule Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 So many problems would be avoided or reduced if people did not feel the need to be dicks. This is true irl, in Westeros and beyond. Euron could have a much better relationship with Victarion and a much better chance at his goals if he was a bit nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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