MegaAIP Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 it's possible that the unsullied will be a small part of the forces that make it to westros with dany she may have unsullieda fleet with victoriandragonsfew free companiesdothraki but it's such a mix of this and that I am not sure how well it will fight together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Reaver Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Now IMO the important thing is, that by the end of ADWD there are very few armies in Westeros, which have not been crushed in the last year or two. I can think of Dorne (of which we know very little) and then of course Tyrell. The Ironborn forces are virtually intact, and of course there's the Vale which is completely untouched. If you ask me, the Vale's forces alone should be enough to deal with the unsullied and any support they might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 it's possible that the unsullied will be a small part of the forces that make it to westros with dany she may have unsullieda fleet with victoriandragonsfew free companiesdothraki but it's such a mix of this and that I am not sure how well it will fight togetherVic only has about 68 ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnar of Fens Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Dany also anticipates some houses joining her when she crosses the narrow sea, so the unsullied would also be joined by seasoned westerosi knights, it would be by no means an army made up entirely of unsullied. also, if she joins with fAegon, she would have the golden company aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Not well if they are unsupported. How many are there? 8000? Put that against Tywin's 20,000 strong force in AGOT and there's no contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Dany also anticipates some houses joining her when she crosses the narrow sea, so the unsullied would also be joined by seasoned westerosi knights, it would be by no means an army made up entirely of unsullied. Forgetting that bringing a cult, unsullied, and dothraki are going turn any lord away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannisaurus Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Given better equipment and support from other types of soldiers (or huge flying death machines spitting fire) they will do quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Sorry but an Unsullied should die badly against any man at arms. Not even talking about knights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Forgetting that bringing a cult, unsullied, and dothraki are going turn any lord away. Except old Walder. Heh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Trell Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Simply arming 8,000 men out of pocket is extremely costly. Who would even keep that amount of armor on hand to sell? How are the Unsullied even able to fight effectively? They're supposed to have been fully castrated before puberty onsets. How do they build any muscle mass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Simply arming 8,000 men out of pocket is extremely costly. Who would even keep that amount of armor on hand to sell? How are the Unsullied even able to fight effectively? They're supposed to have been fully castrated before puberty onsets. How do they build any muscle mass? They don't. That was simply bad writting from Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 How are the Unsullied even able to fight effectively? They're supposed to have been fully castrated before puberty onsets. How do they build any muscle mass? They don't. It's well established that they are weaker than most soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 They don't. That was simply bad writting from Martin. Wasn't. Hrgg na whatever, the Wise Master talking to Dany, stated outright that they are indeed weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Snow Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 The question is which Lannister Army, and where do they engage? Are the Unsullied laying siege to a fortified castle? Or are they meeting a full army (Infantry, Archers, Light/Heavy Horse) in a battlefield? Without armour, or calvary to protect them, and to allow them to form up in formation, they would be in trouble. Of course once they formed up, they could be an anvil against any Westerosi front, due to their discipline, and their high pain tolerance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Trell Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 "Weaker" doesn't describe the difference between a fully matured man and someone who has never gone through puberty. Maybe that's why don't wear armor? Besides the heat of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Wasn't. Hrgg na whatever, the Wise Master talking to Dany, stated outright that they are indeed weaker. Really? I don't remember the quote...could you quote it, please? I'll be thankful But, either way, If those boys didn't have testicles, they'll get no muscles. There's a difference between being weaker than someone and being completely weak, as the Unsullied SHOULD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Really? I don't remember the quote...could you quote it, please? I'll be thankful But, either way, If those boys didn't have testicles, they'll get no muscles. There's a difference between being weaker than someone and being completely weak, as the Unsullied SHOULD. "A eunuch who is cut young will never have the brute strength of one of your Westerosi knights, this is true," said Kraznys mo Nakloz... Storm, p.260 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 "A eunuch who is cut young will never have the brute strength of one of your Westerosi knights, this is true," said Kraznys mo Nakloz... Storm, p.260 Thank you! But I hardly have the strength of Sandor Clegane or Arthur Dayne, or Jorah, and that doesn't make me an eunuch. There are differences IMO. Those Unsullied should be 1'5m tall and 50kg for weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Thank you! But I hardly have the strength of Sandor Clegane or Arthur Dayne, or Jorah, and that doesn't make me an eunuch. There are differences IMO. Those Unsullied should be 1'5m tall and 50kg for weight. Hey, the Astapori was in a sales pitch. Of course he talks the disadvantages down. Furthermore, he wasn't talking about the really strong knights but the average. And finally, he doesn't say how much weaker. Could be anything between 1% or 99% of their strength. By the way, 1.5m is clearly out of line. Personally, I was as tall five years before the onset puberty. And eunuchs tend to gain weight. Fat, not muscle mass, but weight nevertheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I know about a certain king who wants to hire many archers....Its kind of their weakness... also dragons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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