myhousigilisthehousecat Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I've heard that GRRM doesn't plan on any new POV characters besides prologues and epilogues, but I'm not sure what he really means. Example- say we have a Hodor chapter in the next book. Hodor is not a new character, but he's never had a POV chapter before. Does he count as a "new POV character"? 1. Do you think he means that there will be no new characters who are also POVs? (but Hodor chapters might happen) OR 2. Does that mean that the rest of the story will be carried entirely by the existing POVs? (no Hodor chapters will happen) OR 3. Is GRRM lying to us and/or himself? (Hodor and his entire family will have multiple chapters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I interpreted that as no. 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaynsa Starne Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hodor is the mad genius pulling the strings behind Littlefinger. We're kidding ourselves if we think he's not getting a POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyrnaSnowBunnyAvenger Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 No. 2. The last thing we need is additional POVs. Myself, I'm hoping for a massive plague of sorts to wipe out at least 1/2 of the ones we currently have. Sadly, no 24 pages of "HODOR! hodor? Hodar. Hodar!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernmonkey Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Definitely number 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teotsi21 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 We might see 1 or 2 new ones, as replacements.For example, if Jon wargs in Ghost, we will have a new POV, the wolf's aspect, but it wont increase the overall amount of POVs. Just my point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinso Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 In any case, he's added more than enough new characters with AFFC and ADWD. Last thing we need are some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlady B Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 We might see 1 or 2 new ones, as replacements. For example, if Jon wargs in Ghost, we will have a new POV, the wolf's aspect, but it wont increase the overall amount of POVs. Just my point of view. Wouldn't be a Ghost PoV still Jon's? I think he meant that we won't get PoV from characters that haven't been a PoV before (option 2). I also fear that he is not repeating PoV's in places where other PoVs are. Example: at the Wall, we won't have simultaneous PoVs, as we had Sam's, Jon's and Mel's. We would still need at least a PoV in each place where the action is happening: Wall, North, Meereen, Dorne, Citadel, KL, etc. But that would diminish considerably the number of PoVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 . Example: at the Wall, we won't have simultaneous PoVs, as we had Sam's, Jon's and Mel's. We would still need at least a PoV in each place where the action is happening: Wall, North, Meereen, Dorne, Citadel, KL, etc. But that would diminish considerably the number of PoVs. This. Wasn't there a Sam and Jon chapter that both described the same dialogue they had together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dofs Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 It's Martin, he never knows himself what is he going to write. He may be planning to not add any new POV characters but when we buy WOW, we may find out that half of the POV characters are new. As I remember, Barristan was not going to be a POV but Martin had written himself into the corner and had to add him. Same can happen in WOW. Or, he may decide that he wants to write a story about, I dunno, Bear Island and add POV from there. Nothing Martin says is for certain and Martin himself had told that hundred of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet of Patch Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I think he means #2. I'd kill for a Varys/LF/Ilyrio chapter or two though, I think having a "behind-the-scenes" character POV in book 7 would be a good way to wrap things up. Personally hoping for a Varys book 7 epilogue, depending on how the rest of the story goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Ravens Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Defintely #2. But you never know. There was a time when GRRM said this would be a trilogy and look what happened there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Heath Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 If there is a Hodor POV I want his thoughts to be written like Shakespeare while everyone else babbles nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliasb Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I think it's because he doesn't want to start new storylines. he wants to finish ASOIAF with these POV, because, let's be honest, there are a lot of storylines that need to draw to an end (war WF, Victarion to Dany, Cersei and Margaery trial,... and so on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 If there is a Hodor POV I want his thoughts to be written like Shakespeare while everyone else babbles nonsense. Like in that episode of King of the Hill, that has a Boomhauer POV, where everyone is mumbling except him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wedding Cake Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 It's Martin, he never knows himself what is he going to write. He may be planning to not add any new POV characters but when we buy WOW, we may find out that half of the POV characters are new. As I remember, Barristan was not going to be a POV but Martin had written himself into the corner and had to add him. Same can happen in WOW. Or, he may decide that he wants to write a story about, I dunno, Bear Island and add POV from there. Nothing Martin says is for certain and Martin himself had told that hundred of times. This. I believe he said something similar of Arianne Martell in the next book. Let us hope any old character new POV chapters are brief and bring the story closer to conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bael's Bastard Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hodor is the mad genius pulling the strings behind Littlefinger. We're kidding ourselves if we think he's not getting a POV. If he were, i think that would make him even less likely to get a POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib_Juju Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 It has to be number 2, since I cannot imagine a single path to a logical ending that doesn't require a Hotpie POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Wasn't there a Sam and Jon chapter that both described the same dialogue they had together?There was indeed. I always assumed the reason for this was because it had been like ten years since the previous book came out and Martin needed to remind you what the hell was going on. It's pretty ridiculous when you read the books back to back, though, and laughably bad when you do a read that combines Feast and Dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To catch a Lannister Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 This news was actually totally welcome. The rate he was increasing the POVs in the last two books I'm surprised we haven't gotten one from Starfall's janitor or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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