I'm sorry if there is already an open thread, I did search but I could not find one for WMF. Anyway I really needed to dump some BS I've been working on from WMF so I just had to start a new thread since I could not find an ongoing one.
previous thread with links to all the threads thanks to thistlepong
Re: Denna's Letter
I need either help or criticism with what I have attempted to do decoding Denna's Letter that had the unusual capitalization. I was immediately intrigued and at first I, like others before me, went with the K I I I Y I I O I I O S .... and so on, route but I felt their were more than a few glaring problems with decoding the Letter this way. First being that it's way to prosaic for PR, Kvothe and Denna, who are all more the poetic dreamer types - it has to be a code Denna would actually use and a code Kvothe can realistically decipher - so I started leaning towards that maybe the words themselves that are capitalized form a verse. Another thing was there are too many I's for it to work and personally I felt that Denna's Letter itself would have to give you a clue as to what the I's really meant. So between these two problems I found a different cipher with the words themselves, whether it works or not in any way remains to be seen. I wondered if there could be something like "not tally a lot less" or some verse, or whatever, it needed to make sense in the story.
This is all way out of my league but I had fun with my disastrous attempt. At first I felt there might be some rhythm happening but it continued to become more complex the further I went, to the point I felt it would have been too difficult for Kvothe to figure out, so being burnt-out I gave up and came here for aid from those with more experience and knowledge in these areas. I can accept my attempt being invalidated and at the least I only hope to inspire someone with more talent to see if something can be worked out. There were just so many variables, times I forget things, that going back over and over I lost any rhythm. When I found codes and worked out something feasible I would find more codes so I would need to rework it again, I began to wonder if it was just a coincidence or simply seeing what I wanted to make it work better... you know just taking things too far. Anyway, I will embarrassingly show y'all what I have come up with but just please remember that I consider this a failed attempt.
First I'll try to explain how I found a code so you can hopefully have some understanding of my crazy method. The capitalized words from the Letter start; "Kvothe I'm Imre I You I I Opportunity". So I thought maybe Denna was trying to say - Kvothe - 'I'm Imre' is Imre means me, Denna - 'I You' is all single I's means you, Kvothe - 'I I Opportunity' is double I's means Opportunity - if that makes sense. Then I also played around with futherinse/Furtherence/Furtherance and Kist so if anyone would like a more detailed explanation just ask, I don't want to pile more BS on top of this growing pile, lol, plus some lines I inverted, which really made me lost after a while. Here's the final code and the message I've worked out - which is an embarrassing disaster. (Btw, the message makes it sound like Denna can see the future.) Also I'll put Denna's Letter here first for reference.
I’m sorry to leave Imre without word or warning. I sent You a message the night of my departure, but I expect you never received it.
I have gone abroad looking for greener pasture and better Opportunity. I am fond of Imre, and enjoy the pleasure of your Occasional, though Sporadic, company, but it is an expensive city in which to live, and my prospects have grown slender of late.
Yll is lovely, all rolling hills. I find the weather quite to my liking, it is warmer and the air smells of the sea. It seems I might pass an entire winter without being brought to bed by my lungs. My first in years.
I have spent some time in the Small Kingdoms and saw a skirmish between two bands of mounted men. Such a crashing and Screaming of Horses you have never heard. I have spent some time afloat as well, and learned all manner of sailor’s knots, and how to spit properly. Also, my Cussing has been greatly broadened.
If you ask politely when we next meet, I may demonstrate my newfound skills.
I have seen my first Adem Mercenary. (They call them blood-shirts here.) She is hardly bigger than me, with quite the most remarkable grey eyes. She is pretty, but strange and quiet, endlessly twitching. I have not seen her fight and am not sure I wish to. Though I am curious.
I am still enamoured of the harp. And am currently housing with a skilled gentleman (whom I shall not name) for the furthurinse of my study in this.
I have drunk some wine while Writing this letter. I mention this to excuse my above spelling of the word Furtherence. Furtherance. Kist. You know what I mean.
I apologize for not writing sooner, but I have been a great deal traveling and not until now have I had Means to write a Letter. Now that I have done, I expect it might be a while longer before I find a traveler I trust to start this missive on its long road back to you.
I think of you often and fondly.
Pstscrpt. I hope your lute case is serving you well."
Imre = Denna
I = Kvothe
I I = Opportunity
I I I = Means
She = Adem
small 'you' = Kingdoms
Furtherance = Further In See
Kist = Chest
D = Opportunity
I'm Denna You Kingdoms
You I Occasional Sporadic
It My Opportunity Yll
Such You Small Kingdoms
Kingdoms Screaming Horses You
Kingdoms Cussing You
Also If You Adem Mercenary
Though Further In See
Opportunity And Opportunity Writing
Further In See You
Chest Kingdoms You
You Opportunity Means Letter
Now You Means Kingdoms
You Opportunity Kingdoms
I can see a lot here though I know that I ended up forcing this so much that it can not be the real message in any way, to say this is imperfect is a enormous understatement. However I think this mess could say something like - they will see each other occasionally but Denna will go to Yll to help Kvothe and in the end he will go to the Small Kingdoms (btw where some old Lackless lands are and the Poet King), he will end up hated and hunted for what he does there, though if he spends time and learns from the Adem it will help him, before that a large opportunity with writing (? maybe courting Meluan), then something with a chest (Lackless chest?), next I don't know maybe that the letter he receives from the Maer will help him - the one to pay for him to go to the university (?) and it continues to get messier from there... but I think there just might, maybe, could be something to this method but I have mucked it all up and I need help, or I need to be told to trash all of it. Thank y'all for your time.