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[Book Spoilers] Jojen's Burning Hand


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I'm transcribing the dialogue in the Jojen/Bran/Meera scene leading up to the burning hand, because it seems like it might be significant and yet another instance of the show spoiling the books.



Jojen: Meera and I, even Hodor...we're only here to guide you. He's waiting for you. You have to find it. YOU have to make it.


Bran: We will.


Jojen (to Bran): This...this isn't the end. Not for you. Not yet.


Meera: How...will we know the end?


Jojen (looking at his burning hand): You'll know.



"The end" in the context of the conversation seems to mean "death," and Meera is asking Jojen how they'll know "the end," which seems in context to mean when they'll die. That's when Jojen looks at his burning hand and says "You'll know."



Does this imply that Jojen dies by burning and thus put the Jojenpaste theory to bed permanently? Does it imply that Meera and/or Bran will die by burning, since Jojen sees the burning hand in reference to Meera's question "How will we [including Bran and herself] know the end?"? Does it imply something else?



ETA for correction.


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Fire is inevitable in the battle against the White Walkers. Perhaps some or all of Bran & Co die during the big battle, and fire is involved in one of their deaths somehow?


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Honestly it . Was sufficiently vague and ambivalent not to be bothersome. I was more interested in his vision of bran. Anyone notice how they framed the shot so when it was sunny bran was smiling and when it was dark he was not.

I agree, it was vague and ambiguous. A burning hand could have just symbolized anything shocking and unexpected. Although I don't think, if I remember correctly, that there is anything in the books that hint at seers also being impervious to fire, lol. Maybe Jojen is a Targaryen secretly. Maybe we are looking at the next King here. ;)

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Jojen: Meera and I, you and Hodor...we're only here to guide you. He's waiting for you. You have to find it. YOU have to make it.

Bran: We will.

Am I the only one who found this line particularly odd? "Meera and I, you and Hodor" seems to suggest the four of them are there to guide Bran but that would include Bran himself, which doesn't make much sense in context with all the "you". It could be bad writing or I could be interpreting it entirely wrong but it sounded strange.

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Am I the only one who found this line particularly odd? "Meera and I, you and Hodor" seems to suggest the four of them are there to guide Bran but that would include Bran himself, which doesn't make much sense in context with all the "you". It could be bad writing or I could be interpreting it entirely wrong but it sounded strange.

I heard it as "even Hodor", but I could be wrong :dunno:

Honestly it . Was sufficiently vague and ambivalent not to be bothersome. I was more interested in his vision of bran. Anyone notice how they framed the shot so when it was sunny bran was smiling and when it was dark he was not.

Yeah, that whole sunny weirwood/hill thing looks way less sinister than how I pictured it in the book

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My first thought was Jon and his burnt hand? I don't think Jon has anything to do with it though. I was just on the look out for R+L=J hints all episode, especially with the 'your Uncle Brandon' name drop...no Lyanna, though. :frown5:

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I heard it as "even Hodor", but I could be wrong :dunno:

Yeah, that whole sunny weirwood/hill thing looks way less sinister than how I pictured it in the book

same here

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Yeah, it makes more sense for it be "even Hodor". I'll listen for it in my rewatch.

I think it is "even Hodor," on rewatch. His voice kind of catches on it, making it sound like "you and." I edited the OP.

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My first thought was Jon and his burnt hand? I don't think Jon has anything to do with it though. I was just on the look out for R+L=J hints all episode, especially with the 'your Uncle Brandon' name drop...no Lyanna, though. :frown5:

I dont think the show are going to put any hints, I think they want it to be a shock to the viewers.

My only issue is there has been nothing to very little said of Rhaegar, one of my unsullied friends doesnt even know who Rhaegar is.

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