Cassidy McDonough Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I just started reading the first book in the series and I’m a few chapters in and I theorize Jon was actually Eddard Stark’s sister's child. Like when he found her in her bed all bloody, it because she had given birth, and when she made him promise, the promise was to not tell anyone Jon was her child……just guessing. The years match up though, because Lyanna dies about 14-15 years before the books begin....and Jon is 14 at the beginning of the series. Plus it would make more sense that Ned treats it like a touchy subject. Anyways.....just wanted to know if anyone agrees with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_Fly666 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I was just coming here to post this! I agree. There are lots of hints to this, I think. All the ones you have mentioned plus the description of Ned's personality that doesn't fit with him being unfaithful. I think it's Lyanna's baby and I think the father is Rhaegar Targaryen. Robert says Rhaegar raped Lyanna "hundreds of times". And that is also a great explanation why Ned has kept it a secret even though it put a stress on his marriage. If Jon is Rhaegar's son and people found out he would've been killed immediately. And Ned had sworn to his sister to protect the baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG-13 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Hmm, I'm not sure. It takes, what, 9 months for a full pregnancy? How long was Lyanna with Rhaegar? I agree it would be cool and it is VERY unlikely that you could have that much unprotected sex without getting pregnant, but consider this:1. There are numerous possible reasons for Lyanna's bed to be bloody. She might have been attacked, or tried to commit suicide. She could even be on her period!2. I'm pretty sure Robert was exaggerating when he said 'hundreds of times'. That's a lot of time, and Rhaegar had a war to fight. Spending his spare time raping Lyanna would be dumb. Although maybe it helps explain why he lost.3. Jon has been said to look very much like his father, which would be Ned.BUT IT WOULD BE AWESOME IF THIS WAS TRUE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex21 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Yes, is an old theory that we have been discussing here, I think is true, there are lots of facts supporting the theory, still reading the books and you'll find another interestings facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_Fly666 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 @PG-13 Jon could also look like his mother, who is Ned's sister. So the fact thjat he looks like Ned doesn't speak against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna<3Rhaegar Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 The OP has posted this same "theory" in every area in the forum. Apparently trolling... :dunce: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTwipz Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 It could match and it is a really interesting theory ! I'm trying to imagine how people and Jon himself could learn the truth and how they will figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_Fly666 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Well, there's one more brother of Lyanna possibly out there. Benjen might know. Maybe he's dead, or maybe not. We'll see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loodvip Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Holand reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jons nissa Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I have a theory....anyone willing to hear it? welcome to the world of asoiaf. :cheers: everyone at this forum has a theory and most of us have the one you mention here. keep reading. you'll have more theories, for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellus Explorer Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I have a theory....anyone willing to hear it? welcome to the world of asoiaf. :cheers: everyone at this forum has a theory and most of us have the one you mention here. keep reading. you'll have more theories, for sure! :lmao: Informative and Witty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Is it a "theory" or a "hypothesis"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG-13 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Is it a "theory" or a "hypothesis"?Well, theory usually has more basis then a hypothesis, which is like an educated guess. I'd say its technically a hypothesis, but theory sounds cooler and I don't think everyone is likely to go around and say 'theory' instead of 'hypothesis' on a technicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Well, theory usually has more basis then a hypothesis, which is like an educated guess. I'd say its technically a hypothesis, but theory sounds cooler and I don't think everyone is likely to go around and say 'theory' instead of 'hypothesis' on a technicality. People are picking out technicalities here all the time XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG-13 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 People are picking out technicalities here all the time XDYeah, I noticed XDTheory, however, is used widely to describe things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DameofThrones Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Ya, I read this theory a year or two ago and think it sounds more and more likely as I reread...again...and read other ASOIAF stuff. For instance, I read an interview that the Game of Thrones HBO creators did about their hiring interview with GRRM; apparently his question to see if they passed muster was about Jon's parentage, and he was pleased with their answer. I interpret that to mean we already have enough info from the first 5 books to know, and since the Lyanna/Rhaegar theory seems to be the prevailing one up to this point, I think the odds are good that it's right. Add in the business about Jon being the potential coming again of Azor Ahai based on prophesy, and it looks pretty sweet. The real question: will Jon and Dany come together as enemies...or lovers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DameofThrones Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Something else on this topic - are we sure that Rhaegar raped Lyanna? Jorah's description of him made him sound like he might not be the type. It also sounds like he really loved Lyanna. I am doing my reread now and am still only on GoT so I can't remember well enough to know for sure. Could it be that Robert wants to believe she didn't go willingly into someone else's arms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 For all those interested in discussing this theory, take a look at R+L=J threads at the general subforum. We're currently busy in version 83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crow Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 About like 80 threads on this very subject actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiggardlyBastard Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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