Le Cygne Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Pedro Pascal was wonderful in this scene. He uses black blood elsewhere for fatal wounds: Khal Drogo, the man Ygritte killed, UnCat, the Ironborn Theon killed. Also Drogon's wound. Brienne's angst pouring out "like black blood from a wound" to the Elder Brother. Black blood ain't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTalon Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Of course, the brutal death of the Obester did mean one thing in compensation...Gregor screaming for a fortnight through head to toe black gangrene, with visible guts rotting and even his penis decomposing, before being handed over to Qyburn to get dissected alive. :) Huh? I know that leeched dropped off him, killed by his blood but I certainly don't recall that part ...? will they use that line? I don't think I've ever heard the targaryen words in the show the season 1 finale was called Fire and Blood Dany has said the words herself. IIRC it was when the fat spice king in Qarth turned her down (the one who was standing on the stairs while making her holler up at him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 BlackTalon - I'm making an assumption. Gregor passed pus instead of urine and by the time he was handed to Qyburn, he'd turned black from head to foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone_Lannister Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I was prepared to hate everything about Oberyn Martell aka Pedro Pascal....boy was I wrong. Superb....and yes, I cried too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Crashing Waves Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Pedro Pascal was wonderful in this scene. He uses black blood elsewhere for fatal wounds: Khal Drogo, the man Ygritte killed, UnCat, the Ironborn Theon killed. Also Drogon's wound. Brienne's angst pouring out "like black blood from a wound" to the Elder Brother. Black blood ain't good. Nice catch. I've never noticed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTalon Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Yes, Pedro Pascal makes an excellent showOberyn. I never liked book Oberyn because of his first duel. He fucked another man's wife, and even though he knew the duel would be fought only to first blood because of his youth he still poisoned his blade to kill the other, totally innocent guy who was fair enough to fight with a clean blade. A total and utter dick move in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I was more troubled about the way he forced the mothers of his daughters to relinquish their parenthood so he could press them into martial training, whether anyone else wanted this or not. Thing is, Oberyn is meant to be a bit dickish: if you have a character who's ultimately heroic and has a moral compass in spite of some despicable behaviour, they are more relatably human to the averagely moral-compassed reader than someone who's completely morally white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodooqueen126 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I disbelieve that Oberyn, a man who clearly enjoyed his life and had actual affection for Tyrion, would have thrown the fight on purpose in order to die horribly, in order to make sure that Gregor died a more painful death. It would have meant sacrificing Tyrion, which Oberyn would not have done, because he'd been honourable to the Martells in making Myrcella their ward to force the point across to Tywin that he had to kill Gregor, and others, to deliver justice. Tyrion knew his father had been implicated in Elia's death, or at least suspected it, and had already sent Sunspear a missive whose repercussions meant retaliation on the Lannisters if they reneged on their deal once Tyrion was no longer King's Hand. Hence, Tyrion was known to Sunspear as an honourable man. I doubt that Oberyn would have sacrificed him to his cause if his design had been to lose the fight and thus instigate a war against the Lannisters. The poison was a payback if he lost, because he was confident he'd at least wound Gregor, nothing more. But he knew wresting a confession from him might implicate others, so he screwed up by standing too close to Gregor while he was doing so. He should have stood at a further distance, or used Gregor's sword to first lop off his hands or arms. and more importantly, Oberyn knew that if he died fighting Gregor, he would lose the chance to kill Tywin (a far bigger fish, since Book Oberyn had a strong suspicion that Tywin ordered Elia raped and murdered as revenge for marrying Rhaegar when Cersei didn't get the chance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerArthurHeath Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 and more importantly, Oberyn knew that if he died fighting Gregor, he would lose the chance to kill Tywin (a far bigger fish, since Book Oberyn had a strong suspicion that Tywin ordered Elia raped and murdered as revenge for marrying Rhaegar when Cersei didn't get the chance).Unless he already knew he had poisoned Tywin in an eventually fatal way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Which I disbelieve he actually did. It wasn't really his style. I think if Tywin had been poisoned, it's more likely to have been the work of Littlefinger and Orella Tyrell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Hey, I found this info about Pedro Pascal on reddit with AMA or something like that, LOL and thought I would post the link for anyone who hasn't found out about it or read it. Pedro and Oberyn, Champions Both!! ETA: My linking sucks, LOL, google Pedro Pascal/Reddit, you'll find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerArthurHeath Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Here it is:http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/26gtvt/i_am_actor_pedro_pascal_i_play_oberyn_in_game_of/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Here it is:http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/26gtvt/i_am_actor_pedro_pascal_i_play_oberyn_in_game_of/ Thanks, I'm having a hard time with links lately, not sure if it's my new computer, a browser issue, or what. Oh, Pedro IS my champion........for the Capn Crunch love alone. :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asshat by the Shadow Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I have to laugh when I think about what must have happened immediately after this scene. Oberyn realizes he had no reason to pick up the torch, so he'd be all "I'll just put this back..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theramblingfool Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I have to laugh when I think about what must have happened immediately after this scene. Oberyn realizes he had no reason to pick up the torch, so he'd be all "I'll just put this back..." Oberyn entered the cell with that torch. He was on his way out. He picked it up to bring it with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Arwen Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 The actor is simply marvelous, in this and every scene. He has so much gravitas and charisma. Gonna miss him. :crying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I'm not ready for tonight. =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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