Jace, Extat Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 So I'm bored and I was thinking about QB's and how I'd rank them. This is a bored muse, but I thought I'd try to take a different approach to appraising the QB's in the game. Legendary Status: Tom BradyPeyton ManningAaron Rodgers MVP's: Drew BreesAndrew Luck The Freakish Talents: Matt StaffordJay CutlerBen RoethlisbergerTony RomoMicheal Vick Great Performers: Phillip RiversMatt Ryan Dependably Good Players: Russel WilsonAlex Smith Questionably Good Players: Colin KaepernickCarson PalmerRobert Griffin IIICam NewtonJosh McCown The Gunslingers: Ryan TannehillEli ManningMatt SchaubRyan Fitzpatrick Not Sold At All: Andy DaltonSam BradfordMatt CasselBrian HoyerNick Foles Guys Who Kinda Suck: Jake LockerE.J. ManuelJoe Flacco Guys Who Really Suck: Geno Smith Clownshoes: Blaine Gabbert This is just kind of a order of how I'd group the significant QB's in the league. No rookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivin Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I am optimistic that the Colts will be a #2 or #3 seed. :) Love to you, guys! (This is the newest NFL thread, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 This is the latest NFL thread. Not a whole lot of chatter as this is the dead time on the calendar, and it is hard to get really excited about players getting suspended for pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime L Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Welcome back Sivin! And lol at Cutler/Romo/Big Ben and an aging Michael Vick being considered freakish talents but RGIII/Kaepernick/Newton not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Welcome back, Sivin! As for Jace's list, I am not sure how any of those "Gunslingers" actually fit the description, and I would almost certainly re-classify Schaub and Fitzpatrick as "Kinda Suck." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 And lol at Cutler/Romo/Big Ben and an aging Michael Vick being considered freakish talents but RGIII/Kaepernick/Newton not. I seriously question those guys' ability to play well for any length of time. As for Jace's list, I am not sure how any of those "Gunslingers" actually fit the description, and I would almost certainly re-classify Schaub and Fitzpatrick as "Kinda Suck." I was trying to be nice. If you guys hate it so much, make your own damn list! :bawl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I was trying to be nice. If you guys hate it so much, make your own damn list! :bawl: But why? The work-to-satisfaction ratio is much higher when nitpicking your list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Walker Texas Ranger Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 It looks like the NFL's given in to the terrorists. They're going to write out "Superbowl Fifty" in Arabic characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Schefter reporting that CK and 49ers agreed extension worth +$100 mil over 6 years. I don't know the exact numbers and I'm curious to find out since it'll affect Dalton as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 It looks like the NFL's given in to the terrorists. They're going to write out "Superbowl Fifty" in Arabic characters. ...Freedom died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Schefter reporting that CK and 49ers agreed extension worth +$100 mil over 6 years. I don't know the exact numbers and I'm curious to find out since it'll affect Dalton as well. 61 million guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 61 million guaranteed. That's a ridiculous amount. Aaron Rodgers got 62.5 mil and Drew Brees got 60 mil. Fairly sure Brady/Manning come in around 57-59 mil guaranteed. Crazy. ETA: It's actually 6 years, 126 mil with 61 guaranteed. That's insane numbers for a QB who averages less than 60% completion and 200 yards per game passing. He's valuable, no doubt, and the 49ers have been successful, but they were successful with Smith too and they only valued him at 7.5 mil. Is CK worth that much more on that team? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 And they never won a playoff game again for the next 6 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 That's a ridiculous amount. Aaron Rodgers got 62.5 mil and Drew Brees got 60 mil. Fairly sure Brady/Manning come in around 57-59 mil guaranteed. Crazy. ETA: It's actually 6 years, 126 mil with 61 guaranteed. That's insane numbers for a QB who averages less than 60% completion and 200 yards per game passing. He's valuable, no doubt, and the 49ers have been successful, but they were successful with Smith too and they only valued him at 7.5 mil. Is CK worth that much more on that team? I don't think so. I thought it was on the high end of the reasonable spectrum. The Rodgers and Brees deals are a few years old, right? Inflation, increase in salary cap -- those can explain the similar numbers. It's insane when you look at his raw numbers, but maybe not so insane if you think Colin Kaepernick's skillset is the only way to consistently beat the Seattle defensive blueprint. I'm guessing Harbaugh is confident he can keep improving Kaepernick's skill set and consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I thought it was on the high end of the reasonable spectrum. The Rodgers and Brees deals are a few years old, right? Inflation, increase in salary cap -- those can explain the similar numbers. It's insane when you look at his raw numbers, but maybe not so insane if you think Colin Kaepernick's skillset is the only way to consistently beat the Seattle defensive blueprint. I'm guessing Harbaugh is confident he can keep improving Kaepernick's skill set and consistency. I'm sure this was a factor because you're right in that CK's skillset is really the only way (that I can see anyway) of consistently beating that team. I will be interested to see how this affects their team over the next few years though it might not be as bad as you'd think with the salary cap expected to be around $150M in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperry Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Any free agent quarterback can just rake his team over the coals if they aren't fortunate to have an incredible backup waiting in the wings. Seriously, the Niners had no alternative to paying Kaep whatever he wanted. There is no such thing as an open market for quarterbacks. It's not like you can just say see ya later, we'll go get a reasonable facsimile. There are guys that can win in the league, and there are a lot less of them than there are starting QB jobs, and then there is a ridiculous drop off. Seriously, look at the quarterbacks that moved in free agency this year: Michael Vick and Matt Schaub were the big "prizes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickster Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I am optimistic that the Colts will be a #2 or #3 seed. :) Love to you, guys! (This is the newest NFL thread, right?) WELCOME BACK MY YOUNG PADWAN! Also Colts will be in the running to be the top seed for AFC. Jace: your list kinda suck :leaving: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivin Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 How's it going, Tricky? Been holding down the fort for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 How's it going, Tricky? Been holding down the fort for me? Welcome back! You sticking around for the football season or post and running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivin Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Oh, I hope to stick around for a while. What's with all the goofy titles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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