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The preliminary parts of our episode guide for “The Children”, the season finale of Game of Thrones, are now up. Besides the analysis and the book-to-screen breakdown, we’ve linked the post-episode videos HBO has released.

Unfortunately, the recap may be somewhat delayed this time around due to other commitments! And we’ll see if we can manage to get the video discussion/review out as well.



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Great write-up, as usual. One minor thing:


Jon and Ygritte: Ygritte’s cremation or burial is not depicted in the novels, and not discussed.




Ygritte's burning is mentioned in one of Jon's chapters:


He had burned Ygritte himself, as knew she would have wanted




From A Storm of Swords p.714 of 973 (on my kindle edition).


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Mushroomit,

Ah-ha. Thanks for that. I kept telling myself it was in there, somewhere, but couldn't find it and decided it was writing the thing at 5 AM that was convincing me otherwise.

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The preliminary parts of our episode guide for “The Children”, the season finale of Game of Thrones, are now up. Besides the analysis and the book-to-screen breakdown, we’ve linked the post-episode videos HBO has released.

Unfortunately, the recap may be somewhat delayed this time around due to other commitments! And we’ll see if we can manage to get the video discussion/review out as well.

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Wish the people who do the episode voting would back up their numbers with as good an analysis as you all do, always a pleasure to read.

(Well I mean a little tiny analysis instead of the knee jerk reactions I see.)

As always , I also enjoy Myles McNutt's essays over at Cultural Learnings, he has a little extra this week and I guess he will write a sum up later too.

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A remark.

And I have made it before , it is global across 4 seasons.

Peter Dinklage is a hell of an actor, kind of a stupid thing to say.

Here is what I mean, Benioff and Weiss had a choice to make when writing Tyrion , fit it to Peter's natural 'stage' personality or ask him, which he could have done, to conform to the book Tyrion. The purists arond here think Tyrion has been 'whitewashed' but I don't like that characterization since Peter's interpretation has been to take ownership of the character in his won way and D&D have gone with that flow. So what is done is done.

[i note that John Wayne only fit when the screenplay featured John Wayne playing John Wayne, he was great in those John Ford westerns Red River , Fort Apache and especially the wonderful She Wore a Yellow Ribbon , he broke out , slightly, in The Searchers (lord! what a great film!), good in ones that fit him , Rio Bravo and True Grit (tho the Coen brother's version was better) and should have won an Oscar for his last film The Shootist (where he was amazing!)

So you sometime have to fit the actor to the drama or the actor can only fit the drama to the actor!

On the other side of John Wayne there is Sir Laurence Olivier who took Heathcliff totally away from Emily Brontë but nobody would complain about that! Olivier did that many times, but who cares when you are no longer an actor but a magician!

Got has it's own John Wayne, Kit Harington , Kit plays Kit, and I don't mind it a bit.]

My personal interpretation , George pushed the Tysha button pretty hard in the books and I was just not that taken much by it. The show's build up his relation with Twyin ,on the show, seemed

motivation enough for me. After in the series Tywin is riding him all the time about his 'whoring' to the point of abject loathing. Then Tyrion finds out his father (and this in the book too) has been even lying to him about that, actually more than lying! It's really the straw that breaks..... , in the book.

Now why D&D chose to forgo the Tysha story, I don't know, it's not that many lines of dialog, and could have replaced the 'beetle smashing' reminiscences with with Jamie in episode 8. It's just a few words here and there throughout seasons 1-3 also.

About the only time Dave and Dan talk about these choices are the INSIDE THE EPISODE features.

I probably missed one, but a 'hard ball' interview about aesthetic choices , I have never seen. Bryan has fielded more questions like this than anyone else and even he has evaded some.

Most of the stuff, some of which many of the members of this forum hate, were made for TV visual narrative purposes, even budgetary purposes, so D and D have a difficult job and have been doing a fine job.

Look at how fast The White Queen bit the biscuit!

Starz's Camelot was a total disaster!

I notice that the success of GOT has a number of producers with itchy fingers out there, but if they don't get the spark right they are going to have duds.

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Mushroomit,

Ah-ha. Thanks for that. I kept telling myself it was in there, somewhere, but couldn't find it and decided it was writing the thing at 5 AM that was convincing me otherwise.

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Very pleased that I could help. Maybe if I read the series 15 more times I might know 1/10th as much as you do. :)

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