The Prince Of Tatters Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Didn't Theon dream of Rickon (Ned's dad) Brandon and Ned in ADWD? (The same people whose swords were taken) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince Of Tatters Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Sorry for the double post but I meant Rickard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtherSnow Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Had the swords been made of Valyrian Steel, that'd be an open invitation for looters. Ned's sword, Ice, was the only one known at Winterfell to be of such much-sought-after steel. There was one other in Ned's possession at one time, IIRC. Wasn't Ser Arthur Dayne's sword, Dawn, made of Valyrian Steel? Returning a knight's sword is/was the ultimate in chivalry. It shows, despite fighting on opposite sides, there was great respect for each other that particular knights (or lords) had. That's what Ned displays. It could be an act to prompt something else. Who better to trust with a new-born babe than a man with honour, like Ned? I'd say news of the shenanigans in KL would certainly make someone consider this.Wouldn't Arthur do the same had the result been the other way? I feel that's yes. Returning to the swords in the crypt. Those were about symbolism and ceremony. A noble's sword would pass to his eldest (surviving) heir, as do all lands, titles and levies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History of Westeros Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Dawn is forged from a "falling star". Not Valyrian Steel... interestingly it could even pre-date Valyrian Steel-making technology. That's pure conjecture, but the Daynes are very old and their sigil is the same falling star. So it seems likely enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerMixalot Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Was it Bran's uncle Brandon? Would he have been enshrined below winterfell? he took the black, was not a lord and was not KNOWN to be dead. so another Brandon perhaps? Would Lyanna have had a sword? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtherSnow Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Dawn is forged from a "falling star". Not Valyrian Steel... interestingly it could even pre-date Valyrian Steel-making technology. That's pure conjecture, but the Daynes are very old and their sigil is the same falling star. So it seems likely enough. Could that be a way of describing the process? Valyrian Steel should have spells..... are they 'woven' or 'folded' in? The other thing is, when forging most hot metals, sparks fly everywhere. All complete their arc downward, hence falling stars. Descriptions are often embellished in 'songs' as well. It's worth a trip to a forge sometime, particularly in certain Northern Towns in England. You'll see what I mean. Most steel manufacturing areas will have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bedding Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 they were taken by osha, jojen and meera for protection when they were hiding out they were made of bronze i believeWhat about Hodor. He didn't grab a sword? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 What about Hodor. He didn't grab a sword? Hodor definitely took a sword, he is described as practising with it during their journey north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taenqyrhae Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 They were all swords from the last few hundred years, and they were all iron. The book mentioned that in the older tombs you could only see the outline of where the sword was because it corroded away. That's pretty reasonable when you are talking about a damp crypt in a castle that's older than human history. Even though the First Men did not have iron, there's been plenty of time for it to become part of very ancient customs. The Andal invasion is ancient history to the people of 300 AE - the first Andal castles in Westeros are older than the Great Pyramids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkel Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Was it Bran's uncle Brandon? Would he have been enshrined below winterfell? he took the black, was not a lord and was not KNOWN to be dead. so another Brandon perhaps?You're thinking of Uncle Benjen, I think. "Uncle Brandon" is indeed dead (murdered by the Mad King), 15 years before AGoT. Would Lyanna have had a sword?Probably not, she may have been wild and somewhat, shall we say, nontraditional, but there's no mention of her having a sword, and she wasn't, iirc, known for being a fighter. There may be the Knight of the Laughing Tree thing, but that's speculation, and unlikely to be something Ned would use when arranging her burial - he'd probably want to draw as little attention to her as possible, given all that happened since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhalPwno Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The swords are made of iron, it is said when Robert goes down to see Lyanna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Hodor's borrowed sword may be a bit older than the ones taken from the top of the crypts.For what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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