The Storm Queen Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Paradise Alley - The Irish Famine, the New York Draft riots, domestic violence, an interracial marriage under siege, the dysfunctional relationship between an Irish prostitute and a WASPy journalist, the economic repression of the working poor... very dark stuff Handmaid's Tale - Read it with 15 which was probably not the best time. Winter's Bone - the atmosphere is incredibly bleak, the family life wrecked, betterment seems far away and only possible through illegal means and the less we talk about sexual identity and gender politics the better. But at least Ree Dolly offers a glimmer of hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose Seal Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I thought of another one. The Bloody Chamber. It's fairy tales and general public domain stories like beauty and the beast, red riding hood etc but dark and often needlessly so. The Snow Child in particular was quite bad, it involved a man ( her kind of sort of father )raping a child's corpse after her kind of sort of mother tricked her into.killing herself. strangely enough it was part of our reading list for A-level literature.I really don't think there is anything 'needless' about Carter's use of grim in The Bloody Chamber. Remember the book was written by a strongly feminist woman in response to the usually very misogynistic versions of fairy tales known to the public and bring to light the extremely violent subtext that's always been present in the original stories.The Snow Child in particular is a biting and violent critique of men's sexual desires and their tendency to objectify women and even young girls. I highly recommend reading up on analysis of The Bloody Chamber. It's not just stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsbritt4309 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 The Black Jewels trilogy by Anne Bishop was pretty dark, and I, Lucifer by Glen Duncan also. Both books about Saetan* (that's how it spelled in the book, sorry for the "satin" before I'm on the mobile app and it auto corrected) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Eh, Anne Bishop's books have nothing to actually do with Satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Eh, Anne Bishop's books have nothing to actually do with Satan.He said satin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 He said satin. :bowdown: Edit: Still trying to get my head around this one. How anyone could actually read those books and think they're actually about SATAN(or Satin, hoho)...just...no. I mean, I've never heard of any Satan/Lucifer/Satin/wtfever myth that's basically about Satan wanting to fuck little girls so they can level up their magic hymen witch powers :P I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsbritt4309 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 You read BJT? Because that's not what they are about at all. Also the books are about Satan just not the Catholic version of him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsbritt4309 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 He said satin.I'm a she... Hence the "Mrs" in my username :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I have read them yes. I dunno, did you skip all the rape?Ha, non catholic satan...that is not how that works. Having a character named Jesus in say, lord of the rings, would not make it a story about Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshio.Keepiru Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 While true, it doesn't make it any easier to read. Covenant isn't just unlikable, he's utterly loathsome. Granted, I only read the first book, but there was just nothing there for me to latch onto. None of the characters were interesting to me, nothing about the world was intriguing to me, etc, etc. Thomas Covenant despite being the protagonist is not the character that I think the author intended the readers to "like". Other characters such as Saltheart Foamfollower and Lord Mhoram from the first trilogy fulfill those roles. As for the world not being intriguing then maybe the series just isn't your style. Just different tastes in literature is all. I liked them well enough and also liked the way the books also touched upon determinism vs. existentialism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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