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Lyanna<3Rhaegar

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I counted 67 items so I voted for 7 to remove.

5. Waymar Royce by the Others

32. Jojen by CotF (speculative)

33. Jon by Bowen Marsh and co. (may not be dead, but not for lack of trying . . . )

41. Balon Greyjoy by a faceless man (probably)

47. Hazzea by Drogon

48. Quentyn Martell by Rhaegal

54. Prince Baelor by Prince Maekar

I didn't even notice that Prince Baelor by Maekar was still on the list! I thought that was already removed, since it wasn't a murder at all. Then I definitely vote for it.

Drogo by Daenerys (he was a vegetable, not really a murder IMO, more like getting him off life-support)

Prince Baelor by Maekar (not a murder at all, a tournament/fight accident/manslaughter at worst)

Jojen by CotF (we have too many real murders to include speculation)

Hazzea by Drogon

Quentyn Martell by Rhaegal (dragons are animals, surely we don't consider being torn apart by a wild animal on its own will "murder")

Chiswyck by Jaqen/Arya

The Tickler by Arya (those two were murders all right, I just don't find them foul)

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My seven to be taken off the list:



8. Lady by Ned (execution, not murder)


11. Ned by Ilyn Payne on orders from King Joffrey (execution, not murder)


13. Drogo by Daenerys (mercy killing)


32. Jojen by CotF (I'm not convinced by this theory)


40. Robert Baratheon by boar (hunting accident, mostly Robert's own fault for taking the risk of hunting drunken)


41. Balon Greyjoy by a faceless man (speculative)


54. Prince Baelor by Prince Maekar (accident)

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If I counted right this is what the tally looks like so far:

32. Jojen - 8

13. Drogo - 7

54. Baelor - 7

33. Jon - 6

47. Hazzea - 5

41. Balon - 4

48. Quentyn - 4

8. Lady - 3

45. The Tickler - 3

42. Dareon - 2

43. Chiswyck - 2

40. Robert - 1

11. Ned - 1

5. Waymar - 1

44. Weese - 1

29. Craster - 1

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I'm Ok with removing the dragon kills: Hazzea by Drogon and Quentyn by Rhaegar. I added both of them to the list and animals really can't murder. I'm also OK with pulling the Tickler off of Arya's kill list (I added that one too) because, while it was dramatic, it happened in combat.




Lady was an animal that was executed, it was sad but hardly a murder.



And can we please limit the list to individuals? Some villagers by Raff the Sweetling, Inhabitants of the Saltpans by Rorge & co. That's war in Westeros.



And I think Dany's unborn son Rheago is a stretch. We don't know how or why he died, and there are theories that his soul passed to the dragons.



Those are the seven I'd be happy to remove.



I think Weese, Dareon, and Balon should stay on the list. The first two because there is genuine debate about the morality of the killings, and Balon because only people not paying attention don't think it was murder.


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Unless someone has some objections to moving forward I'm going to try. The vote off tally looks like this:

32. Jojen - 8

13. Drogo - 7

54. Baelor - 7

33. Jon - 6

47. Hazzea - 6

48. Quentyn - 5

41. Balon - 4

8. Lady - 4

45. The Tickler - 4

42. Dareon - 2

43. Chiswyck - 2

40. Robert - 1

11. Ned - 1

5. Waymar - 1

44. Weese - 1

29. Craster - 1

62. Villages by Raff - 1

63. People of Saltpans - 1

12. Rhaego - 1

I have removed the bolded from the list but that only takes off 6. We have a 3 way tie for 7th place with the entries I have bolded in the list below.

1. Brandon Stark by gold cloaks on order from King Aerys

2. Rickard Stark by pyromancers on orders from King Aerys

3. Elia Martell Targaryen and her son (?) Aegon by the Mountain

4. Rhaenys Targaryen by Amory Lorch

5. Waymar Royce by the Others

6. Jon Arryn by Lysa Arryn with assist from Pycelle & Cersei

7. Mycah the butchers boy by the Hound

8. Lady by Ned

9. Jory Cassel by Jaime's men

10. Entire Stark household in KL by Lannister men

11. Ned by Ilyn Payne on orders from King Joffrey

12. Rhaego by MMD

14. MMD by Daenerys

15. Renly by Melisandres shadow baby

16. High Septon #1 by the KL mob

17. Tion Frey & Willem Lannister by Rickard Karstark & Co.

18. Joffrey by Lady O w/assist from LF

19. Dontos Hollard by one of LFs men on orders from LF

20. 2 Miller's boys by Reek/Ramsay & Co.

21. Tywin by Tyrion

22. Shae by Tyrion

23. Merrett Frey by Lady Stoneheart & co.

24. Lysa Arryn by LF

25. Marillion by LFs men

26. Rodrik Cassel by Reek Snow/Bolton & co.

27. Maester Luwin by Reek/Ramsay & Co.

28. Jeor Mormont by members of the NW

29. Craster by members of the NW

30. Pycelle by Varys

31. Kevan Lannister by Varys

34. Lord Lyman Beesbury by Ser Criston Cole

35. Little Jahaerys Targaryen (Aegon II' and Haelena's son) by Blood and Cheese (on orders from Daemon Targaryen)

36. Luke (Lucaerys) Targaryen by Aemond Targaryen

37. Rhaenyra Targaryen by Aegon II (via his dragon Sunfyre)

38. Laenor Vaelaryon by Qarl Corey (his lover)

39. Ser Hugh of the Vale by The Mountain

40. Robert Baratheon by boar

41. Balon Greyjoy by a faceless man

42. Dareon by Arya

43. Chiswyck by Jaqen/Arya

44. Weese by Jaqen/Arya

45. The Tickler by Arya

46. Insurer by Arya

49. Victarion's third wife by Victarion

50. Maester Kerwin by Vic's crew on his orders

51. Cortnay Penrose by shadow baby

52. Rattleshirt by Mel

53. Lommy Greenhands by Raff The Sweetling

55. Roger of Pennytree by Lord Gorman Peake

56. Donella Hornwood by Ramsay

57. Kyra, Helicent, Jez, Alison, Maude, Sara, Willow, 2 Jeynes & many other woman by Ramsay

58. 163 slave children on orders of the Great Masters

59. 163 Great Masters on orders of Daenerys

60. Attendants of the RW by Frey & Bolton men

61. Masha Heddle by Lannister men

62. Some villagers by the Tickler

63. Inhabitants of the Saltpans by Rorge & co.

64. Pate by Jaqen

65. High Septon #2 by Osney Kettleblack

66. Guardsman at Harrenhal by Arya

67. Aegon 'Jinglebell" Frey by Catelyn Stark

My suggestion would be for everyone to pick one from the 3 way tie to vote off.

If this is the way we want to proceed my vote goes to:

The Tickler - 1

Balon Greyjoy -

Lady -

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Dareon needs to be on the final list. There are several threads about the morality of his kill. The rest of the close calls I don't care about.

Dareon is on the list because enough people didn't vote it off. We just have to remove one more before we start playing & Dareon isn't one of the ones up for removal.

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