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Arthur Dayne vs. Robert Baratheon


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` Dawn is better than Valyrian steel.

Also, Arthur's strength is being underestimated. When Jaime thinks about fighters he could best, he states that Arthur was stronger.

If the best fighter (Jaime's hurt feelings be damned) in Westeros can't beat Robert than he's unbeatable.

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Arthur would try to slash at Robert, then realize that Robert is wearing plate. Arthur would then think "wait wtf? why am I using a sword on a battlefield dominated by plate armored opponents?" before he could Finnish the thought tho roberts hammer would be in his skull.

Arthur's probably accounting for the thousands of non-plated adverseries who generally make up the bulk of any army and, at least in RL, do the vast majority of noble-killing. Additionally, when nobles do meet on the battlefield, it's usually on horseback.

Robert does seem to find himself in the only kind of fight that suits him most a lot, so there's that. But whether GRRM can be counted on the orchestrate that vs. his 'best' fighter is hard to say.

If we assume on foot, only against each other, with all passing infantry etc. giving them space to go Mano a Mano, and wrapping it all up when that's resolved, Robert stands a very good chance. It's one of GRRM's less realistic habits that this unlikely scenario keeps repeating itself so often, though.

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Bob is overrated.

His best feat is killing Rhaegar who is much weaker than Dayne.

You realize Rhaegar was a great warrior too right?

Robert also has the blood of Marq Grafton, Lord Fell and Myles Mooton on his hands. Thats four nobles, more than any other character in the series can claim that we know of.

I don't think anyone doubts that Dayne would have had more skill than Robert. But not only does a warhammer completely change the playing field, we are led to believe that prime Robert was an unstoppable tank.

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Rhaegar was way better than average but still not even close to be as good as Dayne.


Only Dany idealize her brother so much, both Jorah and Barristan already implied that Rhaegar wasn't as great as she think he was.



Dayne would kill Robert in a fight, and i'm sure Selmy or AGOT Jaime would do the same thing







more than any other character in the series can claim that we know of.

Jaime killed Eddard Karstark,Torrhen Karstark and Daryn Hornwood in a SINGLE battle.


I'm sure he slained even more noble than Robert in his life.

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Rhaegar was way better than average but still not even close to be as good as Dayne.

Only Dany idealize her brother so much, both Jorah and Barristan already implied that Rhaegar wasn't as great as she think he was.

That's not true. Barristan only objects to the idea that Rhaegar is without peer, and his objection is that no one is unbeatable; any fight can turn on the smallest factor like a loose rock or glint of sunlight.

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Rhaegar was way better than average but still not even close to be as good as Dayne.

Only Dany idealize her brother so much, both Jorah and Barristan already implied that Rhaegar wasn't as great as she think he was.

Jorah's comment about Rhaegar had nothing to do with his skills but with him playing by the rules and losing because of that. Either he meant that he should have tricked Robert or that he was tricked by him, IF he's even talking about the fight that coasted him his life. For all we know, he meant in general.

Barristan's comments do imply Rhaegar wasn't as great as people think, but I guess that's because Arthur was better, not exceptionally better. That doesn't mean Rhaegar was weak.

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Jorah's comment about Rhaegar had nothing to do with his skills but with him playing by the rules and losing because of that. Either he meant that he should have tricked Robert or that he was tricked by him, IF he's even talking about the fight that coasted him his life. For all we know, he meant in general.

Barristan's comments do imply Rhaegar wasn't as great as people think, but I guess that's because Arthur was better, not exceptionally better. That doesn't mean Rhaegar was weak.

First doesn't necessarily involve trickery. It could be something as simple as him letting Bob regain his feet once he'd fallen or giving him a moment once he was injured or even just something like he paced himself in harm's way to cover his army's retreat.

Second, he doesn't say anything about his being less than Dayne. He just says no one is peerless.

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Robert Baratheon is a worse version of the Mountain.

The mountain is taller stronger, more durable and has more stamina.

There's no indication about either surpassing the other with regards to stamina. The other 2 yeah, but then Robert's quicker/faster.

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Robert Baratheon is a worse version of the Mountain.

The mountain is taller stronger, more durable and has more stamina.

Wow by those qualifications, almost everyone is worse than the Mountain.

And how do you know Robert has less stamina? It seems like you're making a ton of shit up.

Some quotes about Bob

His father had talked of him often: the peerless Robert Baratheon, demon of the Trident, the fiercest warrior of the realm, a giant among princes.

This Baratheon is fearless. He fights the way a king should fight

They said Robert Baratheon was strong as a bull and fearless in battle, a man who loved nothing better than war.

We all know what my brother would do. Robert would gallop up to the gates of Winterfell alone, break them with his warhammer, and ride through the rubble to slay Roose Bolton with his left hand and the Bastard with his right.

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Wow by those qualifications, almost everyone is worse than the Mountain.

And how do you know Robert has less stamina? It seems like you're making a ton of shit up.

Some quotes about Bob

You know the Stannis quote isn't actually meant as an indication of anything real, right?

Edit: ninja'd.

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