Could Young Griff be a Descendant of Aerion Brightflame?

[KingMaekarWasHere]

Could Young Griff be a Descendant of Aerion Brightflame? -

"After the conclusion of the tournament, Baelor died from a wound to the head (caused by his brother's mace) and Maekar sent Aerion to Lys, where he stayed for a few years. It is possible that he fathered some children while staying there.^[3]

Exile

He served with the Second Sons while in exile.^[4]

In 232AC, Aerion died drinking a cup of wildfire, believing it would transform him into a dragon. He died screaming.^[5] He left an infant son who was later passed over in the succession.^[6] He owned a dragon egg that was gold and silver.^[7]"

(Taken from the Aerion wiki page)

So what could this tell us factually? Number one that Aerion's line might be Aegon's line and that's why he is Aegon Targaryen and not Blackfyre. (Or perhaps he has the blood of both?) Now we also know that Aerion had a gold and silver egg. Does Aegon have the egg or is someone in the Golden Company holding it for him? Or was it one of the Eggs that ended up with Illyrio and Ilyrio believed that Dany, Viserys, and his Aegon would join up with the three dragons and invade Westeros? What do you guys think? Do you think that Viserion will smell Aerion’s scent on Aegon and go to him? Maybe he will take Storm’s End “in dragon style?” Just an idea

[Suzanna Stormborn]

Yes I agree with this. Veltigar already made a lengthy thread on this theory. Google Brightfyre theory, Blackfyre + Brightflame. IMO it is the truth of fAegon's heritage :)

[HexMachina]

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/104644-the-brightfyre-theory/

[UnmaskedLurker]

Another possibility is that (f)Aegon is both a descendant of a Blackfyre and a Brightflame. He has two parents, after all, and one could be from one line and the other from the other line. That possibility could explain why both Illyrio and Varys (if the brother of (f)Aegon's mother) are interested in a restoration of the throne through (f)Aegon.

[Suzanna Stormborn]

Another possibility is that (f)Aegon is both a descendant of a Blackfyre and a Brightflame. He has two parents, after all, and one could be from one line and the other from the other line. That possibility could explain why both Illyrio and Varys (if the brother of (f)Aegon's mother) are interested in a restoration of the throne through (f)Aegon.

YUP exactly.

[Black Dragons]

That is good point that Aegon is both a descendant of Blackfyre and a Brightflame if I was Brightflame I will go find the Blackfyres and make a deal with them they pass him over and his son I be piss

[JonCon's Red Beard]

A Brightflame is nothing but a Targaryen with an extra sense of entitlement and crazy. Aerion was a Targaryen, so would be Aegon.

[Lady Blizzardborn]

I think Varys is the "bright"flame dragon in the series. But yes it's possible that Aegon (if fake) has Brightflame blood.

[KingMaekarWasHere]

A Brightflame is nothing but a Targaryen with an extra sense of entitlement and crazy. Aerion was a Targaryen, so would be Aegon.

That's why I think they have been calling him Aegon Targaryen, because his male line is. Serra may have been Blackfyre but why would the Golden Company have red dragon banners? If you have read the Hedge Knight and the other two Dunk and Eggs then you know about the historic Blackfyre and Targaryen feud.

[Veltigar]

A Brightflame is nothing but a Targaryen with an extra sense of entitlement and crazy. Aerion was a Targaryen, so would be Aegon.

Everyone knows that :P Everybody just calls Aerion's descendants Brighflames because it's easier to distinguish whether your talking about the Royal Branch of Targaryens or Aerion's line.

As to OP, glad that yet another has come to the conclusion that Faegon is a descendant of Aerion. Of course, that doesn't mean he isn't a descendant of Daemon Blackfyre as well. The Brighfyre theory, of which I'm quite proud of, has done its best to accumulate all possible evidence about Faegon's origin. Just read the first post, I have updated it regularly in order to keep track of the evidence uncovered in the later pages.

The thread is now closed for length, but one of this days I'll probably start a second version. That way, possible hints from Rogues and tPatQ might get a place in it as well. And then there is of course TWOIAF, which is coming out in october IIRC, that will probably contain some more juicy evidence :drool:

[KingMaekarWasHere]

But I don't think that Aerion was behind his son's match to the black dragons, I hint that his red dragon pride and anger at that blinded him and he thought that the main line Targaryens were gods amongst men.

[WhiteOwl18]

It's definitely a possibility. Personally, I think he's a Blackfyre, but this is a perfectly valid scenario. It could also be that he's a mix of both.

[Mithras]

The thread is now closed for length, but one of this days I'll probably start a second version. That way, possible hints from Rogues and tPatQ might get a place in it as well. And then there is of course TWOIAF, which is coming out in october IIRC, that will probably contain some more juicy evidence :drool:

you are ninjaed :P

[The Dragons Hand]

I'm of that belief. Technically it would give him the best claim of everyone on one side of Aegon the fifth, but because it has gone unclaimed so long it has diminished, whereas people like Dany haven't been out a full generation. The Baratheon's never properly took root though, so that's a problem for them.

[Hippocras]

One connection to Lys that people pay less attention to for some reason is Shiera Seastar. She was half Lyseni. It is unclear if she ever had any children and if so with whom, but imagine if she had a child with Bittersteel, who was at the very least on of her suitors though it is unclear if he was ever actually her lover. However she had several other lovers as well, so anyone might have fathered a child with her.

If so, and Varys or Illyrio comes from that line, IMO it would help explain Bloodraven's intense interest in the current conflict.

[HexMachina]

One connection to Lys that people pay less attention to for some reason is Shiera Seastar. She was half Lyseni. It is unclear if she ever had any children and if so with whom, but imagine if she had a child with Bittersteel, who was at the very least on of her suitors though it is unclear if he was ever actually her lover.

If so, and Varys or Illyrio comes from that line, IMO it would help explain Bloodraven's intense interest in the current conflict.

What intense interest in the current conflict? He's more concerned with the Northern threat of the Others

[Hippocras]

What intense interest in the current conflict? He's more concerned with the Northern threat of the Others

Maybe. But it is not actually clear that the threat from the far North is unrelated, and that may not actually be the root of his interest. We don't know enough about Bloodraven yet.

[Lady Blizzardborn]

One connection to Lys that people pay less attention to for some reason is Shiera Seastar. She was half Lyseni. It is unclear if she ever had any children and if so with whom, but imagine if she had a child with Bittersteel, who was at the very least on of her suitors though it is unclear if he was ever actually her lover. However she had several other lovers as well, so anyone might have fathered a child with her.

If so, and Varys or Illyrio comes from that line, IMO it would help explain Bloodraven's intense interest in the current conflict.

Far more likely Bloodraven (who we know was her lover) than Bittersteel.

[assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar]

It's possible, yeah.

There's a theory, the "Brightfyre" idea, that Aerion's descendants married into the Blackfyres in exile, and that Aegon (and possibly Varys and/or Serra, if they're related) is both Aerion's descendant and a Blackfyre.

[Hippocras]

Far more likely Bloodraven (who we know was her lover) than Bittersteel.

Well that is possible too, but would confuse the story a bit. It would rather imply that Varys is cool with magic and is working against Aegon.