Yara in Season Five (Book Spoilers)

[King Beyond the Firewall]

What exactly is Yara going to do in season five? Last we saw she ran away from a few dogs and a half-naked man, presumably back to the Iron Islands. I'd imagine she'd be present for whatever version of the Kingsmoot we get but after that?

Are they going to try and get her back north to be captured by Stannis? That doesn't really make sense as much now. Roose Bolton has taken Moat Cailin and holds Winterfell. Going back to Deepwood Motte would be a strange idea now that Bolton controls the North.

Plus it seems she has given up on Theon. In the books I think she realises that Theon's absence from the Kingsmoot might make a difference but in the show she's given up on him. So, what's happening there?

[Damp Hair - The Prophet]

D&D don't much care for the Ironborn so Asha (oops, I mean Yara) may not show up in S5 & if so it will be for 5 min. in a shitty, badly done scene. But never mind that--we will get 14 interchangeable Sandsnakes & 28 tits in multiple Dornish sexposition scenes.

[bloodsteel bitterraven]

She will probably appear in one episode. I'm still hoping for an Asha/Theon reunion, but I don't know how they will do it after that stupid season 4 trip to the Dreadfort.

[Konradsmith]

We've gotten no news on that front. There is a Gemma Whelan interview she gave after 406 aired, where she seemed to know something about what would be going on with Yara going forwards. Someone could link that. Other than that we just have to wait on the news. The comment from D and D about there being more of Stannis in s5 might point to us getting his and Asha's ADWD battle and alliance etc.

[Damp Hair - The Prophet]

Dany is the only empowered female allowed in the HBO GoT show; maybe Cersei. No Arianne as heir, no (not much) active Asha (derp, Yara). Meera needs a lil frogspear trident also.

They barely kept around Theon for worst part of season 3 hostel torture porn. They barely kept around Yara for worst part of season 4 Dreadfort attack (*wost edited scene all season. They deleted a Ramsay thrill killing his lover girl scene to get blood spattered I swear it -week after Jaime/Cersie rape mess up episode)

They (D&D must be keeping those two Greyjoys at least around briefly each season to have a pay off. They won't waste the chance to show a death on TV (bye Balon!), but Greyjoy uncles--who knows at this point! They could be a focus of season 6 but you'd think an intro at least this year?.?

Asha's son will sit the SEASTONE CHAIR.*

btw, why is their no seastone chair?

&why don't the five kings have crowns? besides Joff & Renly?

[zaphodbrx]

What exactly is Yara going to do in season five?

Filler.

Or absent.

[King Beyond the Firewall]

Sometimes I think D&D don't always think through the consequences of their changes. If they always planned to speed ahead the story in the North then it was going to make Yara a bit redundant so why give her so much screen time earlier?

[boojam]

What exactly is Yara going to do in season five? Last we saw she ran away from a few dogs and a half-naked man, presumably back to the Iron Islands. I'd imagine she'd be present for whatever version of the Kingsmoot we get but after that?

It is curious. They did not have to cover even one scene of the Greyjoys (besides Theon) in season 3 and 4.

Besides Theon... I totally did not expect to see Patrick Malahide season 3 , and in a way not even Gemma Whelan in season 4.

The 'Pyke' Greyjoys have appeared late in the season since season 2. So I don't know what exactly to think not sure Baylon will ever appear again , he may die off-screen.

It is a puzzle since , they seem, to be keeping Gemma Whelan about , I suppose the Iron Fleet could be delayed until season 6...

It's odd since George wrote them up as kind of screwball pirates , and it's the kind of off-the-wall thing that D&D seem to like.

[Tangbrand]

Well, I heard that they haven't started to shoot in Northern Ireland yet... maybe they haven't finished the casting for the plotlines being shot there. We should keep in mind that the season 5 announcement video mostly covered Dorne, and not only we don't have anything from the Iron Islands, we don't have anything from Tyrion's plotline either (speaking of which I really hope that this doesn't mean that Tyrion will be shipped to Meereen immediately, because I would be very pissed). I am still clinging to the hope that we will have new Greyjoys in S5 and the ironborn storyline (there's that one rumor that they found the location to shoot the Kingsmoot), maybe somewhat tuned down then the dornish plotline of which everyone is sooo hyped about, eventhough I don't think that Dorne would weight more than the Iron Islands in the books.
I also read that D&D wants to speed up the storyline, and finish with the written material in season 5, but if that means that they will cut: the Iron Islands, Quentin Martell, the plotline on the Rhoyne this would only be a huge middle finger to the book readers. As for me I just fuckin' don't care about the excuses how limited are the possibilities of the television series, and because of that D&D has the rights to cut full plotlines. Include all the plotlines. This is the only 'full' adaptation of ASOIAF we get.

[Arkash]

Rushing things is no excuse !

HBO will gladly give them 8 or 9 seasons if they need to !

Or maybe D&D are exhausted of GoT and want to wrap it as soon as they can to move on other things and that would be a shame !

[bloodsteel bitterraven]

An HBO official said that they would like to do more seasons but those two guys want to end the show in 7 seasons because they don't like living in Belfast (it's not very cosmopolitan).

[of man and wolf]

D&D don't much care for the Ironborn so Asha (oops, I mean Yara) may not show up in S5 & if so it will be for 5 min. in a shitty, badly done scene. But never mind that--we will get 14 interchangeable Sandsnakes & 28 tits in multiple Dornish sexposition scenes.

I know. God, can there be anything less exciting than the Dornish and all these unnecessary characters. Except for some of the things happening in Essos, I cant think of any.

MORE NORTHERN CHARACTERS PLEASE.

[Janicia]

Wow this thread is negative.

I agree that Yara's sequence in season 4 was mangled, but it does set up something interesting - Yara has already met Ramsay and she knows that Theon is alive but completely messed up. Yara has a strong, personal reason to hate Ramsay, and she's seen very vividly what he's like. It also seems like Yara knows more about Ramsay than anybody else outside of the Dreadfort at this point. Even Ramsay's soldiers and girls seem surprised about his actions in seasons 3 and 4, and the only atrocity the other northern lords could have noticed him commit was flaying the Ironborn in season 4. So Yara has valuable insight into Ramsay and by extension, into Roose.

My guess is that the show will basically follow the books regarding Balon's death. Balon dies before Yara returns and Euron immediately and brutally tries to take over. Yara contests Euron's leadership in a Kingsmoot and loses. I don't expect to see Victarion or a named Aeron, so I think Euron's horribleness will be transmitted through Yara's reaction to his return. Then Yara will have to flee the Iron Islands. I think she might choose to join Stannis and pop up in his plot rather than being captured. She'll want revenge, and she'll be in a weaker position in the show than in the books because she doesn't have a garrisoned castle to flee to after the Kingsmoot.

I don't think Yara will get much screen time, but I am looking forward to her and Stannis - she seems like she could get him frothing mad in about 2 minutes.

[Arkash]

I think she might choose to join Stannis and pop up in his plot rather than being captured.

I hope not. The tensions between Queen's Men and Northeners about what to do with her was among the best moments of ADWD... everything north of Moat Cailin in ADWD was among the best stuff in Asoiaf, though.

[Janicia]

I hope not. The tensions between Queen's Men and Northeners about what to do with her was among the best moments of ADWD... everything north of Moat Cailin in ADWD was among the best stuff in Asoiaf, though.

What do you want to see happen after the Kingsmoot? The best men loyal to Asha seem to have suffered high casualties during the Theon raid. She should still have some loyal men to crew a boat and escape Euron after losing the Kingsmoot, but then what? She doesn't have a castle to go to in the show. Yara would be a fool to just go back to the north and wander around until Stannis captures her, and I think it would be really hard to make that sequence not-terrible after the mangled 4x06 sequence. Yara would lose any remaining credibility if she accidentally blundered into Stannis' grasp, wouldn't she? If Yara is supposed to become a prisoner of the Boltons, that shoulda been the outcome of her raid in season 4 rather than having her escape and then come back to get captured.

Yara needs a plan after the Kingsmoot. Her evil uncle took over the Iron Islands, the evil Boltons have taken over the north. Frankly, her best plan would be to give up on Westerosi politics and turn pirate, but clearly she can't do that and continue in the story. So her next best plan is to join up with the enemy of her enemies. Stannis isn't going to like her or trust her. Stannis' men can still want to sacrifice her. But it makes sense that she'd choose to go to Stannis.

Yara isn't going to become Victarion. If the show wasn't going to do anything with Yara's plot in the north, the show should have forgotten about her after season 2, and just introduced the actual Victarion in season 5. Balon was a compelling character in season 2; he could have been the hook to keep the Ironborn treading water in the story during seasons 3-4 - the Yara rescue mission was completely pointless if Yara is going to turn into Victarion. Further, Yara would never act like Victarion. She's not going to try to marry Dany, she's not going to piss Dany off in the way that Victarion will if he ever meets Dany, she's also much smarter than Victarion. The show would never had made the decisions it has made with Yara if they wanted her to merge with Victarion.

[Arkash]

What do you want to see happen after the Kingsmoot?

My wishes :

Ep 2 : Return to Pyke, learns of Balon's death, meet with Euron who has claimed the throne, calls for a Kingsmoot, Euron agrees.

Ep 3 : Kingsmoot. Vic introduced. Euron wins. Introduction to an enamoured Tristifer who urges her to flee. Fly away. Euron only laughs at that and lets her go.

Ep 5 : On board with Tristifer and other loyalists. Decides that the only way to oppose the Kingsmoot is to prove Theon is alive even if he's dead for her.

Ep 7 : Runs into Stannis who takes her and her men captive.

Ep 8 : Northern Lords want to have her sacrificed to Old Gods. Queen's Men want to burn her. Stannis doesnt say a word.

Ep 9 : Theon escapes WF and is reunited with her. Battle of Winterfell.

I know this present loopholes (she considers Theon dead, its redudant to have her fail at something again...) but D&D are not scared of that.

And if done properly, the scene where she falls under Stan's grasp could show her badassery even if she ends up captive (cause let's face it, Stan's more badass !)

[Queen of Whores]

We've gotten no news on that front. There is a Gemma Whelan interview she gave after 406 aired, where she seemed to know something about what would be going on with Yara going forwards. Someone could link that. Other than that we just have to wait on the news. The comment from D and D about there being more of Stannis in s5 might point to us getting his and Asha's ADWD battle and alliance etc.

:O

When was this said??? I'm really excited if it's true. Here's hoping against all odds that they make Stannis the true badass he was during Dance.

[King Beyond the Firewall]

If the show wasn't going to do anything with Yara's plot in the north, the show should have forgotten about her after season 2, and just introduced the actual Victarion in season 5.

I agree with this. I'm wondering if D&D thought through their changes here. Her returning north at this point is basically because "it was that way in the books" rather than an action her character would take.

[boojam]

An HBO official said that they would like to do more seasons but those two guys want to end the show in 7 seasons because they don't like living in Belfast (it's not very cosmopolitan).

They are , apparently, separated from their family for quite some time during the year.

Also... just guessing... being tied up for more 5 years , even if they are making good money, may be something they they want to get away from, because now they have clout to do others things

they are interested in.

They already have Bryan broken in as a producer, break in , or heck find some seasoned ones who like this genre and let them carry on.

[Konradsmith]

They said at Comic Con, Queen of Whores, that they would be utilizing the great character of Stannis and great actor of Stephen Dillane in s5 more than they had before. IIRC it may have even been D.B. Weiss who said that (who StanStans have often claimed hated the character). Flicks and the City has posted the whole panel on youtube if you don't believe me.

That to me, given what he gets up to in ADWD, would also mean including his meeting up with Yara. Also Gemma Whelan seems to have some sort of guest star contract.