Blackfyre Tyrell Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Hiya! So I was looking to see if there had been any recent news updates about TWOW, and I stumbled across this: "During a panel at ComicCon GRRM let it be known that Jeyne Westerling will appear in the prologue of The Winds of Winter..." It goes on to say that she will not be the POV, she will just make an appearance. I found this on windsofwinterrelease.com and the "Article" was dated July of this year. Sooooooo, is there any legitimacy to this or is it total bullshit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gis Val Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Yup. It's true enough. http://www.westeros.org/ASoWS/News/Entry/GRRM_on_the_Winds_of_Winter_Prologue But the POV havn't been revealed, although Forley Prester has been speculated to be the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budraven Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I personally like Maggie the Frog as the POV telling Jeyne she's the young, beautiful queen to take down cersei. Jeyne may actually be in line to inherit Castamere (can't remember my source, my apologies). i feel it would be very GRRM to have the new lords of castamere take down the last remaining inheriting Lannister of The Rock, particularly if she goes by Jeyne Stark. could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Walters Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I personally like Maggie the Frog as the POV telling Jeyne she's the young, beautiful queen to take down cersei. Jeyne may actually be in line to inherit Castamere (can't remember my source, my apologies). i feel it would be very GRRM to have the new lords of castamere take down the last remaining inheriting Lannister of The Rock, particularly if she goes by Jeyne Stark. could be interesting. I don't think Maggie the Frog is alive though. No one has really said if she is or not yet so maybe this will happen. It's a very cool idea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budraven Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 yea that's my only worry about a Maggie prologue. we just don't know much about her. i see her as a great candidate for a prologue character. she's had prophecies come true, she's relatively unknown for most of the story, she probably has a lot more info/prophecies to share, and in my opinion she's pretty killable, which is the most important characteristic for prologue characters :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Idle Raven Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Prologue POV tend to suffer violent deaths at the end of their chapters. Forley Prester is a likely candidate as is Jeyne Westerling, though a random Frey, Lannister guardsman, servant etc could also work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Beecher Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think the simple fact that GRRM has the prologue at his attention is a great sign! Perhaps it is desperation setting in, or an over-abundance of optimism, but if he is thinking about the prologue perhaps he has most of the book finished? I got the impression that he wrote the prologues to set up important events in the previous books, so maybe he has everything laid out and is simply filling in the gaps? Reading too much into it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Walters Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 It seems like I'm the only one so far to think that the Winds of Winter will be released within a year. No more. There's more and more proof saying that it will be. George is buckling down by not scheduling anymore visits and not writing an episode for season 5. I think it's interesting that he says ,this is paraphrased, "I'm not working on an episode this next season because I have a book to finish". Not, "A book to continue writing". It seems like he is just polishing the details and finishing chapters here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budraven Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 ^totally agree. my prediction was a release date shortly after the release of A World of Ice and Fire. I don't think he's going to want to take the hype away from that book getting released late October I believe. I'm hoping GRRM gives us a Christmas gift by providing TWOW release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I think the simple fact that GRRM has the prologue at his attention is a great sign! Perhaps it is desperation setting in, or an over-abundance of optimism, but if he is thinking about the prologue perhaps he has most of the book finished? I got the impression that he wrote the prologues to set up important events in the previous books, so maybe he has everything laid out and is simply filling in the gaps? Or the opposite, he's writing the book in order, and the prologue is almost finished. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Or the opposite, he's writing the book in order, and the prologue is almost finished. B) Not really George has mentioned a number of times how he doesn't write his chapters in order. Take Kevan's chapter for example. George was writing it in June of 2010 and the book didn't come out until nearly a year later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon88 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 It seems like I'm the only one so far to think that the Winds of Winter will be released within a year. No more. There's more and more proof saying that it will be. George is buckling down by not scheduling anymore visits and not writing an episode for season 5. I think it's interesting that he says ,this is paraphrased, "I'm not working on an episode this next season because I have a book to finish". Not, "A book to continue writing". It seems like he is just polishing the details and finishing chapters here and there. I sincerely hope that is the case but my prediction is early 2016. I don't think he would finish next year. I think one thing that would happen is that he would write a lot and he would have to edit parts and all of this would take lot of time. I feel that WOW will be a huge book with lot of pages and he would release it in early 2016. I also think he would write 8 books not 7. There are lot of questions left in the books and the Essos part is a whole mess. I just don't see Martin finish the story in 7 books especially if he wants to leave no questions behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budraven Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 A Game of Thrones - August '96A Clash of Kings - February '99A Storm of Swords - November '00 (wish it only took a year between ADWD and TWOW :bang: )A Feast for Crows - November '05A Dance with Dragons - July '11The Winds of Winter - Giving us the release date at the end of season 5 sounds kind of reasonable because he's committing to only writing this, no? He's already got a ton of it completed, and has released 5 chapters. Definitely not saying the book will be released at the end of season 5, but rather he'll give a release date then. My guess is the book will come out before season 6, probably in time for the holiday season. So my best guess is November 2015, but I'm probably just being optimistic. Edit - @Dragon88 we're basically on the same page.Late 2015/Early 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar Targaryen's Ghost Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 wow I hadn't heard about this yet, this is pretty exciting. I can't remember where Jeyne currently is, I think back in the Westerlands? I'm curious as to how her current situation will fit into the prologue, because I was anticipating an Oldtown or Slaver's Bay prologue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Prologue POV tend to suffer violent deaths at the end of their chapters. Forley Prester is a likely candidate as is Jeyne Westerling, though a random Frey, Lannister guardsman, servant etc could also work. Chett survived his Prologue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Of Thrones Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Chett survived his Prologue."Tend to" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon88 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Chett survived his Prologue. Didn't he die. It looked like he got killed by the Others in the prologue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Didn't he die. It looked like he got killed by the Others in the prologue. You might be thinking about Will (was that his name? the narrator of the prologue of AGOT). Chett was the one conspiring to mutiny in the prologue of ASOS. Gets killed in the Battle of the Fist Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon88 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 You might be thinking about Will (was that his name? the narrator of the prologue of AGOT). Chett was the one conspiring to mutiny in the prologue of ASOS. Gets killed in the Battle of the Fist Etc. No Will gets killed in the prologue too. In the show they changed Will and Gared' s character where Eddard executes Will. But in the book Will dies in the prologue and Gared gets executed by Eddard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 No Will gets killed in the prologue too. In the show they changed Will and Gared' s character where Eddard executes Will. But in the book Will dies in the prologue and Gared gets executed by Eddard. That's what I meant. Will's the one killed by the Others in his prologue. Chett survives his and gets killed further in the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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