Wicked Woodpecker of West Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So, what if during mortal combat undet Tower of Joy, Howland Reed died but in the last moment, using his advanced, death enhanced warg mojo he jumped into Arthur Dayne and took control of his body? Therefore biological Howland would die, but his soul would survive in Dayne's body. That would explain why all this years he did not leave Greywater Watch - many nobles would easily recognize Dayne who was famous knight just few years ago (and also totally not-crannog-look-like). That's how he saved Ned's life, but also that's why Ned never told any details about Dayne's demise and Reed's crucial help.What d'ya think about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm the Party Pooper Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So, what if during mortal combat undet Tower of Joy, Howland Reed died but in the last moment, using his advanced, death enhanced warg mojo he jumped into Arthur Dayne and took control of his body? Therefore biological Howland would die, but his soul would survive in Dayne's body. That would explain why all this years he did not leave Greywater Watch - many nobles would easily recognize Dayne who was famous knight just few years ago (and also totally not-crannog-look-like). That's how he saved Ned's life, but also that's why Ned never told any details about Dayne's demise and Reed's crucial help.What d'ya think about it?It's more probable they had a sexual/love affair going on, than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaselPie Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Absolutely worth considering. HR could also have warged AD to incapacitate him to protect Ned. Good topic. I think the real HR is still alive but this is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Woodpecker of West Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 It's more probable they had a sexual/love affair going on, than this. Well there's this theory than Reed's wife is in fact Ashara Dayne. Absolutely worth considering. HR could also have warged AD to incapacitate him to protect Ned. Yeah, I know this one, that's why I made one step further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Santa of House Claus Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 It is a mad theory. What evidence is there that HR is a warg? Warging a person is suppose to be incredibly hard, the only reason Bran can warg Hodor is because Bran is maybe the most powerful warg ever, and because Hodor is a simpleton. There is no evidence that HR was a warg, let alone a super powerful one. Maybe he was a green seerer like Jojen, but wargs were not all that common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Well there's this theory than Reed's wife is in fact Ashara Dayne.I am a firm believer that Ashara is Jyana Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm the Party Pooper Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I am a firm believer that Ashara is Jyana Reed. Me as well, but it doesn't have anything to do with this theory. You people have so much imagination, why don't you write your own books instead of writing down trolling crackpot theories out of boredom? I'm so saddened by the, cause I'm sure you could write very interesting stuff with this ability you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Song so Sweet Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 What if Howland Reed was a unicorn and Arthur Dayne jumped on top of him to ride to rainbow land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceHenryris Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Points for a fun idea Unfortunately...NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaselPie Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 It is a mad theory. What evidence is there that HR is a warg? Warging a person is suppose to be incredibly hard, the only reason Bran can warg Hodor is because Bran is maybe the most powerful warg ever, and because Hodor is a simpleton. There is no evidence that HR was a warg, let alone a super powerful one. Maybe he was a green seerer like Jojen, but wargs were not all that common. Maybe Ned warged Arthur after getting coached by his greenseer BFF. Sounds familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Of Thrones Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 How on earth did Howland warg a perfectly sane person? Varamyr tried, and we know how that tuned out.Also, no evidence other than 'wouldn't it be cool if...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Feet Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So if HR is actually Dayne... I thought Ned killed Dayne & returned Dawn to his sister? So HR warged the guy, a very large & strong guy at that, & just kinda was like "damn this is a sweet sword! Lets give it back to his, uhm... my sister!" Nah. It seems waaaaaaay crackpotish. Hell, I believe HR + AD = JJ & M more than this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Me as well, but it doesn't have anything to do with this theory.You people have so much imagination, why don't you write your own books instead of writing down trolling crackpot theories out of boredom? I'm so saddened by the, cause I'm sure you could write very interesting stuff with this ability you have.I was simply responding to another posters comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So if HR is actually Dayne... I thought Ned killed Dayne & returned Dawn to his sister? So HR warged the guy, a very large & strong guy at that, & just kinda was like "damn this is a sweet sword! Lets give it back to his, uhm... my sister!"Nah. It seems waaaaaaay crackpotish. Hell, I believe HR + AD = JJ & M more than thisThat's actually a pretty good/ theory thats not all that crackpot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm the Party Pooper Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I was simply responding to another posters comment. Me as well, I'm sorry I quoted your post but was more practical on phone. The post you were answering to was directed to me originally :) /OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Me as well, I'm sorry I quoted your post but was more practical on phone. The post you were answering to was directed to me originally :) /OT Oh Okay :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Woodpecker of West Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 You people have so much imagination, why don't you write your own books instead of writing down trolling crackpot theories out of boredom? I'm so saddened by the, cause I'm sure you could write very interesting stuff with this ability you have. Because of lack of style and OCD. How on earth did Howland warg a perfectly sane person? Varamyr tried, and we know how that tuned out.Also, no evidence other than 'wouldn't it be cool if...' Blah, those bloody Andals counts as half-men in terms of warging. So if HR is actually Dayne... I thought Ned killed Dayne & returned Dawn to his sister? So HR warged the guy, a very large & strong guy at that, & just kinda was like "damn this is a sweet sword! Lets give it back to his, uhm... my sister!"Nah. It seems waaaaaaay crackpotish. Hell, I believe HR + AD = JJ & M more than this Well you know if he decided to remain Howland Reed and return to crannogs rather than pose as Arthur Dayne it was fair thing to do. Ok, so we killed and mindfucked poor SOB, but does it means we should steal from him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I guess Howland's corpse must still have been able to perform sexually, in order to father Jojen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Of Thrones Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Blah, those bloody Andals counts as half-men in terms of warging. Daynes are older than Starks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not in the face Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I guess Howland's corpse must still have been able to perform sexually, in order to father Jojen. You just blew this theory up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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