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The Riverlands Web: Or How Some People Can’t Shake a Connection if They Tried.



This was started because it branched out of another thread from the other day and took on a life of its own.



Many had thoughts regarding some characters and how far away they were from each other, and from the last two books we see that is now narrowing. The overlap or just missing each other that has been occurring will go somewhere eventually. In some cases, some theories were more likely than others.



Many have debated what I called to myself the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon or Starks. I dabbled here and there on threads, but always wished it would be in one place with everything in front.



Arcs are narrowing and have or are about to intersect. We started to only brush the surface on another thread and took a look.



So we wanted to delve into situations/connections and interpretations of what they mean and could mean. It already started on another thread, but sort of needed a place of its own.



Here are some we have discussed, there are certainly more:



Mini-fact, organizer, profiles...



Primary Tier Characters:



Common thread: All in Riverlands area, and all looking for Sansa and Arya.



Brienne –of Tarth. Former Rainbow Guard member of Renly. Associated with Sapphires. Knew Catelyn, met Gendry and knows he’s Roberts’s son of her own accord, and I don’t need to elaborate on what she is currently doing for LS and BWB. We know her Jaime situation and she has fetched him. She is currently looking for Sansa and Arya Stark. She did not realize it but met Sandor on the QI. EB knows what her current mission is, he might have told Sandor. Sandor was standing around in his Novice Brother Halloween costume and surely heard something. Knows Thoros. Current Status: With Jaime



Sandor – No ser. House Clegane. Former bodyguard to King Joffrey. KG. Familiar with Sansa and Arya Stark. Run-in with BWB, LS thinks he was the last person to see Arya. Sandor knows Jaime from KL and earlier than that. Currently with EB (or maybe not?) Knows Thoros. Saw Gendry with Arya. Knows Catelyn Stark was the girls mother. Knowledge of LS through EB???Unknown and Speculative. Was there when Brienne showed up to QI. Reaction presently unknown. News he has gathered or input from EB unknown. Current Status: QI or Maybe not



Gendry – Ser of the Hollow Hill - Knighted by Dondarrion. Bastard son of King Robert. Part Targ and Estermont. Former blacksmith's apprentice. Familiar with Arya – now knows Brienne – at orphanage assisting with looking for Arya/ Sansa - member of BWB. Saw Sandor take Arya. Met Ned, and is working with LS. Knows Thoros. Current Status: with LS, Thoros, BWB



Lady Stoneheart (Catelyn Tully Stark) – AKA - Mother Merciless, The Hangwoman, LS for posts, - House Tully/Stark/BWB - Looking for Sansa and Arya. Knows Gendry. Reaction unknown. Most likely knows he was with Arya.Thinks Sandor took Arya. Working with BWB and familiar with Brienne and Jaime as Catelyn and now LS (again we know they are headed toward her, so no need to elaborate). Knows Thoros. Current Status: WIth BWB, Gendry, Thoros, etc.



Brynden - AKA Blackfish - House Tully - Uncle and Great Uncle of LS, Arya, & Sansa. Certainly no Jaime fan, a'tall. Whereabouts currently unknown, but last seen escaping from Riverrun. Knows Hound. Current Status: ??? - which translates to: No one has any idea where the hell he is currently.



Jaime -House Lannister - KG - familiar and with Brienne. Knew Catelyn and will possibly soon know LS. Knows Blacksfish. Knows Arya and Sansa and looking for them. Knows Sandor. Knows Thoros. Current Status: with Brienne



Stranger - "Driftwood" - Badass horse of Sandor Clegane - House Clegane - Allegiance to Sandor - No one else can go near him risking personal injury/loss of body parts - ex: ear - hates everyone but Sandor - Knows Sansa and Arya - Knows Jaime -Knows Thoros - Knows Gendry - Knows BWB - Saw Brienne briefly as she walked into his stable (he would say "jail") - hates Sandor's Novice Brother Halloween Costume - wants to keep his "bits" - surely incensed that EB could not come up with a better name than "Driftwood" (makes him sound like a dork) - grateful in a way that his stable stall is not near the others - unable to be gelded - unable to be handled/cared for by anyone but Sandor - Advice: Don't even try! Not looking particularly for Sansa and Arya but will most likely agree to it, if his owner will get a move on already and get him the hell off the QI. Actually, the horse will probably agree to anything at this point for freedom. Current Status: Eye-rolling and attempting to kick the damn stable door down at the QI, or he would say "jail."



Nymeria - AKA BIG NYMS -House Stark - direwolf - one of original 6 in litter - 4 left - only female left of litter - Arya's direwolf - Connection/shared extension of/with Arya - hates the friggin Lannisters, Freys, etc. for many reasons - female alpha - roaming Riverlands - Hates everyone - Knows/hates Jaime - Knew Catelyn - pulled Catelyn as LS out of water/aware of LS to some degree - might have seen Arya/been aware of a presence -More concerned with Arya than Sansa most likely, but…still went in to retrieve LS/Arys's mother - might know Gendry/BWB/Thoros anyone Arya was around ( few reasons it could be or could not be) - rules pack of other male and female wolves -HDWIC - Current Status: Pissed off! Meanwhile in the Riverlands...



Thoros - of Myr, priest of R'hllor, BWB, bromance with Beric, with LS/not happy with how she runs things, Knows Sandor. Knows Stranger. Knows Jaime. Looking for Arya and Sansa. Drinking buddies with King Robert. Known for sword on fire circus trick. Knows Brienne. Knows Gendry….???? we will get back to this. Current Status: With LS, Gendry, BWB




Secondary Tier Characters:



Harwin- House Stark allegiance - son of Hullen, Master of Horse of Winterfell - grew up and worked at Winterfell - stable boy/guard - Knows all members of House Stark very well, including previous generation, Rickard, Lyarra?, Ned, Brandon, Benjen, and Lyanna. Could id any Stark possibly. Used to lead Arya's pony as a child. Looking for Arya and Sansa. Could recently id Arya. BWB. Knows LS, Thoros, Sandor, Gendry, Jaime, other BWB members. Knows Nymeria. Current Status: BWB, and theories about being sent somewhere else.



Tom of Sevenstreams - AKA - Tom O' Sevens, Tom Sevenstrings - BWB. Knows Thoros, Sandor, Jaime, LS, Arya, Gendry. Singer/Lyricist/Musician. Plays woodharp. Hit single "The Floppy Fish." Familiar with House Tully (Edmure, Lysa, Hoster?) might know or know of Brynden. Current Status: Apparently, still in BWB, posing as musician looking for work, has infiltrated Frey camp at Riverrun, where he encountered Jaime. Can update LS on status of Edmure/other intelligence.



Lem Lemoncloak - Lem short for Lemoncloak - Redundant double name - some speculate an alias with more background he is not revealing for some reason - BWB - known for yellow cloak, bad teeth, broken nose not set and healed properly, large, strong man - Knows Thoros, Gendry, Arya, LS, Sandor, Brienne, Pod, Hyle. Currently: Utlizing Sandor's Hound Helm ( Mistaken identity issue? with BWB at the hanging that was halted.)



Anguy- AKA - The Archer - From Dorne - commoner -excellent at archery - Known to blow money on luxuries and girls - BWB - Knows Thoros, Gendry, Arya, LS, Sandor. Knows and turned down offer from Ned Stark to join the Hand's Guard. Current Status: BWB



Septon Meribald- Septon that travels the Riverlands - from the area originally - illiterate - able to memorize religious doctrine of the Seven - lives on random assistance for food and shelter in exchange for carrying out septon duties. Distributes food and goods to poor. Travels with a donkey and a dog named "Dog." Knows Brienne, EB, Pod, Hyle, did run in to Sandor and Stranger on QI. Brings up the "tales" of Nymeria in circulation, but doesn't know who she is. Knows BWB. Current Status: Unknown, But allowed to go about his business by BWB.



Podrick Payne - "Pod" - House Payne - House is sworn to House Lannister - former squire to Tyrion - now accompanying Brienne - Knows Sandor. Saw EB, Sandor, Stranger? Would he know Sandor's horse? Knows Jaime. Looking for Arya and Sansa Stark. Looking for Tyrion. Knows Sansa enough to possibly id her, which would be asset to Brienne. Knows BWB. Knows LS. Knows Gendry. Knows Thoros. Knows Meribald. Current Status: Held for insurance by LS and BWB - almost hung, but reprieved temporarily.



Hyle Hunt- House Hunt - knight - allegiance to House Tarly - Knows Brienne, Pod, BWB, LS, Thoros, Meribald - rocky acquaintance with Brienne to begin with - Saw EB, Sandor, and Stranger - marriage proposal to Brienne was flatly denied - Did offer to fight Jaime in Brienne's place, offer denied. Seems to be looking for Sansa and Arya Stark, really, doing and going wherever Brienne is/does. Issues: may report back to Randyll Tarly. Obviously, knows Brienne is sole heir to Tarth and female, thus why he attempted to propose marriage. Current Status: Held for insurance by LS and BWB - almost hung, but reprieved temporarily.



The Hot Pie - From Flea Bottom, orphan, baker, does not kick people in the balls to death, contrary to what he said, Familiar with Arya and Gendry, Knows BWB, Knows Thoros, Current Status: In Riverlands at Inn of the Kneeling Man - baking the Westeros version of the cronut - Inn named for Arya Stark ancestor, Torrhen, The King Who Knelt.



Under Construction: suggested 3rd tiers, places, and objects we wanted to have profiles for, for easy tie references.


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LOL and JINX. I just PMed you to see if you did start this thread as mentioned in that Sansa and Sandor thread. I love the idea you have for just looking at everyone in and on the borders of the Riverlands, past and present connections, and what the possibilites are for various characters in the Riverlands for the future.



Sandor and Brienne: One reason the idea of these two somehow crossing paths in the future speaks to me so strongly is because of their True Knight issues. I think that alone, both their issues with Knighthood and what it means, begs for them to meet again. We have Sandor who basically eschews Knighthood thanks to his brother. Sandor himself refuses SERs, while Brienne seeks to emulate all the honorable version of Knighthood, denied to her because of her sex. Add in both characters connections with the Stark girls, their desire to protect them in various ways throughout the novels, almost a traditional knightly quest. I'm thinking the Man who rejected knighthood could have his faith restored in such by meeting a woman...........who may be the truest knight of all. Dramatically and thematically, these characters with this issue seem to cry out for a meeting. The icing on top is I am sure Sandor would getting a great barking laugh out of the fact that the Truest Knight in The Seven Kingdoms might just be a woman.



It's the above reasoning and converging theme for these two characters, Sandor and Brienne, that leads me to highly suspect their mutual involvement in these Riverland stories. Well, it's one of the reasons.



Great thread, lots of characters and lots of possibilities in the Riverlands, I'm now wondering..........on all the secondary characters we met in the area over the span of the books. Hmmmmmmm, I'm wondering if Lady Smallwood would like a little flirt with Sandor, LOL Once he's cleared of all The Hound's more dastardly deeds, courtesy of Rorge and company. I do worry, too, on Lem and that Musical Hound Helm. Thoros is mighty disillusioned already, the Helm exchange between them didn't seem promising, well........not for Lem's decency, anyway.


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LOL and JINX. I just PMed you to see if you did start this thread as mentioned in that Sansa and Sandor thread. I love the idea you have for just looking at everyone in and on the borders of the Riverlands, past and present connections, and what the possibilites are for various characters in the Riverlands for the future.

Sandor and Brienne: One reason the idea of these two somehow crossing paths in the future speaks to me so strongly is because of their True Knight issues. I think that alone, both their issues with Knighthood and what it means, begs for them to meet again. We have Sandor who basically eschews Knighthood thanks to his brother. Sandor himself refuses SERs, while Brienne seeks to emulate all the honorable version of Knighthood, denied to her because of her sex. Add in both characters connections with the Stark girls, their desire to protect them in various ways throughout the novels, almost a traditional knightly quest. I'm thinking the Man who rejected knighthood could have his faith restored in such by meeting a woman...........who may be the truest knight of all. Dramatically and thematically, these characters with this issue seem to cry out for a meeting. The icing on top is I am sure Sandor would getting a great barking laugh out of the fact that the Truest Knight in The Seven Kingdoms might just be a woman.

It's the above reasoning and converging theme for these two characters, Sandor and Brienne, that leads me to highly suspect their mutual involvement in these Riverland stories. Well, it's one of the reasons.

Great thread, lots of characters and lots of possibilities in the Riverlands, I'm now wondering..........on all the secondary characters we met in the area over the span of the books. Hmmmmmmm, I'm wondering if Lady Smallwood would like a little flirt with Sandor, LOL Once he's cleared of all The Hound's more dastardly deeds, courtesy of Rorge and company. I do worry, too, on Lem and that Musical Hound Helm. Thoros is mighty disillusioned already, the Helm exchange between them didn't seem promising, well........not for Lem's decency, anyway.

This is it. This is the quote that felt like someone threw a bucket of ice water in my face:

"I think that Brienne and her quest may have already triggered movement on Sandor's part."

There was other stuff too that I'll have to mention.

My take was, when I saw this, and then gave it time to marinate was:

It would explain a lot I've noted. And seriously, there are posters we post with often that have brought some stuff up, that I don't think I'll be able to remember even half of it.

1. If he stays, he obviously has a redemption arc, so….what the hell is he going to do for the rest of his life on that island?

2. The resort vacation is over…we have wars, dragons, Others, etc.….I don't think the Quiet Isle stays quiet. So even, which I don't believe, but even if he stayed, there is no way that with what's coming, that even that place won't be affected.

3. Stranger, and I know many of us agreed, want the HELL off the Isle. He is done-zo. He has been done-zo. And I wish I could remember what thread from awhile ago, but Le Cygne had brilliant stuff. All I remember is I made some points and cracked some Stranger jokes, and she had some excellent points that zinged.

4. There is just no way in hell as a redemptive arc, and not to mention, he pounded drinks when he heard a Sansa update, heard she got away, knows she is loose, and just had Brienne walk up to QI and throw the name in his face again, that he won't leave to help. Not to mention that he is still in love with her.

There are more, but I figured I could start here.

And each number, a lot can be discussed for each, so I kept it general, and threw my opinion in too.

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We also have Blackfish, whereabouts currently unknown, but last seen escaping from Riverrun.

ETA: We can only hope that Jamie finds a way to ditch Illlyn Payne ASAP. :eek:

I got Brynden. I'll do a little fact organizer for him too and how he is involved with all this.

Edit: Probably better if I put them at the top with the rest, in the OP, and then more can be added eventually.

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LOL and JINX. I just PMed you to see if you did start this thread as mentioned in that Sansa and Sandor thread. I love the idea you have for just looking at everyone in and on the borders of the Riverlands, past and present connections, and what the possibilites are for various characters in the Riverlands for the future.

Sandor and Brienne: One reason the idea of these two somehow crossing paths in the future speaks to me so strongly is because of their True Knight issues. I think that alone, both their issues with Knighthood and what it means, begs for them to meet again. We have Sandor who basically eschews Knighthood thanks to his brother. Sandor himself refuses SERs, while Brienne seeks to emulate all the honorable version of Knighthood, denied to her because of her sex. Add in both characters connections with the Stark girls, their desire to protect them in various ways throughout the novels, almost a traditional knightly quest. I'm thinking the Man who rejected knighthood could have his faith restored in such by meeting a woman...........who may be the truest knight of all. Dramatically and thematically, these characters with this issue seem to cry out for a meeting. The icing on top is I am sure Sandor would getting a great barking laugh out of the fact that the Truest Knight in The Seven Kingdoms might just be a woman.

It's the above reasoning and converging theme for these two characters, Sandor and Brienne, that leads me to highly suspect their mutual involvement in these Riverland stories. Well, it's one of the reasons.

Great thread, lots of characters and lots of possibilities in the Riverlands, I'm now wondering..........on all the secondary characters we met in the area over the span of the books. Hmmmmmmm, I'm wondering if Lady Smallwood would like a little flirt with Sandor, LOL Once he's cleared of all The Hound's more dastardly deeds, courtesy of Rorge and company. I do worry, too, on Lem and that Musical Hound Helm. Thoros is mighty disillusioned already, the Helm exchange between them didn't seem promising, well........not for Lem's decency, anyway.

Just some extra thoughts:

And if he needs this and this is who Brienne is, then again, a lie and/or being duplicitous to Jaime doesn't jive.

The show might have been a sort of preview of things to come...

He wants to be the knight for Sansa, someone has to show him the way, how to go about it….Brienne. Also, Brienne is not the cookie cutter, traditional knight that he never was.

I would rather him have his faith restored, something he can believe in, by working with Brienne, than the other Faith.

I will add Lem. Some BWB people could be put separately too. Just posted but I intend on tackling Thoros too. There were so many things people discussed but there was no thread.

I threw out some stuff before regarding a question about Thoros and Gendry. Because based on Brienne's recognition, something is not jiving here either.

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I always figured Sandor had two main jobs: Kill Gregor and protect Sansa. As to the first, if Gregor is Robert Strong and Sandor is the gravedigger on the QI, then they're set up to meet in a trail by battle between Cersi and the High Sparrow (where Sandor can defeat Gregor leading to Cersi's death...by a little brother/valenqor in Sandor). That's neither here nor there, however.



With Sandor, Brienne, Sansa, and the Hound's helm all in [relitive] proximity to one another, if I were writing it (in no particular order):



Sandor meets with Brienne, sees what a true knight can be, even is not a "Ser".


Finds and defeats whoever is wearning the Hound helm, symbolically and literally killing the Hound.


Winds up as Sansa's protector/companion. Instead of being the corrupt Joffery's Hound, he becomes Sansa's "wolf", taking the place of her direwolf.



Because, honestly, the fact Sansa is alive and her wolf isn't just doesn't add up for me. This would tie up both arcs neatly. Which is the theory's biggest weakness.


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I always figured Sandor had two main jobs: Kill Gregor and protect Sansa. As to the first, if Gregor is Robert Strong and Sandor is the gravedigger on the QI, then they're set up to meet in a trail by battle between Cersi and the High Sparrow (where Sandor can defeat Gregor leading to Cersi's death...by a little brother/valenqor in Sandor). That's neither here nor there, however.

With Sandor, Brienne, Sansa, and the Hound's helm all in [relitive] proximity to one another, if I were writing it (in no particular order):

Sandor meets with Brienne, sees what a true knight can be, even is not a "Ser".

Finds and defeats whoever is wearning the Hound helm, symbolically and literally killing the Hound.

Winds up as Sansa's protector/companion. Instead of being the corrupt Joffery's Hound, he becomes Sansa's "wolf", taking the place of her direwolf.

Because, honestly, the fact Sansa is alive and her wolf isn't just doesn't add up for me. This would tie up both arcs neatly. Which is the theory's biggest weakness.

This came up yesterday on another thread.

Thrown out there, but some possibilities can be hashed out further.

Is it possible Sandor left the QI and off screen met up with Brienne already?

Possible that they could meet?

And what goes down if Jaime is with her and they are going to see LS and the BWB. The Hound goes too?

Or…could Jaime get sent somewhere getting the opportunity by LS and BWB to be useful, does he get away because he ran away or something happens to LS and BWB. And Brienne goes it alone with the Hound for a bit.

Sweet Podrick roughing it with the Hound along with Brienne would be hilarious.

Or would Sandor, Brienne, and Jaime, is it possible, they could work together?

I have to get the quote from somewhere else, and I will, but someone threw out there that maybe Brienne is not lying to Jaime. Her likelihood or lying, the value she holds of honor and vows has to be taken into account too.

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We also have Blackfish, whereabouts currently unknown, but last seen escaping from Riverrun.

ETA: We can only hope that Jamie finds a way to ditch Illlyn Payne ASAP. :eek:

Before I turn in for the night, I just wanted to say, I, too, keep The Blackfish in the back of my mind for the roving stories of the Riverlands. He is one character that I think it's about 50/50 on him turning up in the area soon. He's a slippery ole Blackfish, and his possibilites for story and location seem as endless as anyone's. It's a toss up between him still hiding somewhere in Riverrun, a la the crypts of Winterfell, hightailing it after his men bound for the North, heading for the Brotherhood, heading for Edmure and Casterly Rock, heading for Greywater Watch. He could turn up ANYWHERE!! I just hope he hurries the hell up about it, he is one of my favs. (I say that alot, don't I, so so is one of my favs, LOL).

Anyway, I will turn that over in my mind, along with the subject matter of the entire thread, and look forward to seeing any other ideas posted when I return tomorrow. I also have a longshot hope for a snarking rematch between The Blackfish and The Kingslayer, they can discuss that horse named Honor again, haha. I'd love to see that, eventually.

Hey wait, was Honor male or female, we still need to find a filly for Stranger. Honor or Glory......one of them was female, weren't they? Hmmmmm, something for me to look into tomorrow. :leer:

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oh yeah The Riverlands is one of the places where SO much HAS and WILL go down.





I feel like Sandor might reappear somewhere along the line, but I can't help but to feel some of the finality in the EB saying that "The Hound was at rest." However I do feel like a curse or something lays on the Helm and that Lem will continue to turn more violent as he wears it.....maybe even another fragmentation of the BWB.




Gendry, Brienne, Jaime, and SH are almost certainly all together or in very very close proximity.




-Blackfish is a wild card in more ways than one, so is Sandor.


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oh yeah The Riverlands is one of the places where SO much HAS and WILL go down.

I feel like Sandor might reappear somewhere along the line, but I can't help but to feel some of the finality in the EB saying that "The Hound was at rest." However I do feel like a curse or something lays on the Helm and that Lem will continue to turn more violent as he wears it.....maybe even another fragmentation of the BWB.

Gendry, Brienne, Jaime, and SH are almost certainly all together or in very very close proximity.

-Blackfish is a wild card in more ways than one, so is Sandor.

Hey,

Totally check in with this thread again. I don't have the post location in mind right now, but I have to find it.

That is so funny that you used the term "wild card."

That was discussed yesterday, same thing, in regard to Sandor. Yup, mind reading….same term was used.

That will get discussed too. Wild cards, and what they can or will do that will throw a wrench, really, be "wild cardish" with all these people in the same area.

All mentioned above have a common goal, but also comes with it are the histories, feuds, love/emotional ties, wishes for vengeance, allegiances, conflicting allegiances with each other, personal issues and slights. To varying degrees.

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Agree with the above, and while I can get obsessive about when Sandor will show up again, slippery ole Blackfish is even more mysterious and intriguing. He's also potentially Sansa's closest living relative who may be nearby.



ETA: Sometimes I look at Riverlands as a micro Meerenese knot. LOL




All mentioned above have a common goal, but also comes with it are the histories, feuds, love/emotional ties, wishes for vengeance, allegiances, conflicting allegiances with each other, personal issues and slights. To varying degrees.


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Hey,

Totally check in with this thread again. I don't have the post location in mind right now, but I have to find it.

That is so funny that you used the term "wild card."

That was discussed yesterday, same thing, in regard to Sandor. Yup, mind reading….same term was used.

That will get discussed too. Wild cards, and what they can or will do that will throw a wrench, really, be "wild cardish" with all these people in the same area.

All mentioned above have a common goal, but also comes with it are the histories, feuds, love/emotional ties, wishes for vengeance, allegiances, conflicting allegiances with each other, personal issues and slights. To varying degrees.

Sandor has always been the "wild card" of the series. He is presented as horrible for what he did to Mycah, then almost heroic for his rescue of Sansa in the crowd and other such things with Sansa. THEN he shows up again out of nowhere to the chagrin of Arya, only to be the only thing that keeps her alive for a while.

I do admit there is a lot of what goes into the people in the RIverlands.....but the POV's gathered together I BELIEVE will end up working for a common purpose. Especially remember that Jaime wants to be like Arthur Dayne....and knows that winning the small folk over is the best way to sway things....

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I love the analogy of the Riverlands being a web... specifically the middle of the web. Let's not forget, there are people that have left the Riverlands as well - most notably members of the BWB, like Edric Dayne and Anguy - who could literally show up anywhere. Odds are, they returned to their respective homes? Edric to Dorne, Anguy to the Stormlands.... So basically, there have been little threads of "webbing" placed strategically across Westeros. Neither Sansa nor Arya could go anywhere in Westeros without being very likely to bump into someone who knows to lead them to the Riverlands.


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I think this is a great thread because it involves some of my favorite characters, Brienne, Sansa, Sandor, and the Blackfish. It will be really interesting how this all plays out.

Totally….more coming tomorrow.

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I love the analogy of the Riverlands being a web... specifically the middle of the web. Let's not forget, there are people that have left the Riverlands as well - most notably members of the BWB, like Edric Dayne and Anguy - who could literally show up anywhere. Odds are, they returned to their respective homes? Edric to Dorne, Anguy to the Stormlands.... So basically, there have been little threads of "webbing" placed strategically across Westeros. Neither Sansa nor Arya could go anywhere in Westeros without being very likely to bump into someone who knows to lead them to the Riverlands.

Exactly.

I bolded Anguy. Tom is another one too. But where assorted BWB people are and what they are doing, if/when they will return is something to look at too.

Yeah, I think I had pieces of this in my Gendry/Arya essays. I think I said the word web, but it didn't belong on the Re-Thinking Romance thread.

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