Fireandblood94 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Sorry if this has been asked before, I'm re- reading AFFC and was wondering who ye think betrayed Arianne to Prince Doran about her plan to crown Myrcella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chebyshov Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 It's unclear, but Darkstar is the most popular guess around here. She put her trust in some chatty-cathys though, that's for sure. There's also the possibility that Doran just figured out what she was up to on his own; Tyene already approached him with the Queenmaker concept, and he knows how close they are :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Who is to say there is only one talker? I like to think Slyva Santagar talked at least. Winds spoilers: Estermont, where she was sent as "punishment" has fallen to Aegon, amd JonCon.demanded the highborn hostages be sent to him. So Arriane seems set to run into her, and I think this might give.us some insight into who blabbed. One of the less likely options, but still interesting, is Arys Oakeart. He may have wanted to redeem himself for.breaking his vows, amd because he couldn't live with betraying Arriane decided to die by charging Areo. Its an out there guess, but possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkel Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Darkstar is a popular choice indeed (see! he can be popular... just not in the way he wishes). He was there, he's a (largely) unknown quantity in general, and he does attack Myrcella right at the time when Doran's troops are at the scene. We don't know nearly enough about his allegiances, beliefs or long-term goals to truly guess what his motivations are - perhaps he just saw a chance to curry favor with Doran, though that seems rather silly since Doran is old, Darkstar is young and Arianne is likely to become his liege lord (lady) eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chebyshov Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Didn't Myrcella get a bad vibe from Drey or something? Could be her gut was right also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Lucious Left-Foot Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't know, my guess is with Arys Oakheart. He knew that this would put Myrcella in danger so he ratted, but he couldn't admit it to Arianne, and then, when he couldn't live with himself, he threw himself at Areo Hotah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't think Darkstar had anything to do with it - his attempted murder of Myrcella was clearly against Doran's plan. It was one of her Dornish friends, I'd wager, though I have no idea which one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 So, as the OP can probably tell by now....Nobody really has any definitive idea who betrayed her :) A case can really be made for all of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I thought it was Myrcella's handmaiden. Seems like the most obvious answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I thought it was Myrcella's handmaiden. Seems like the most obvious answer. But would she be aware of the specifics? Where Arriane was heading etc? I'm not sure that Myrcella and Arys even knew their route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endymion I Targaryen Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Doran told Arianne that her friends talk too much when he revealed her his plans.Maybe he knew it from how he learned of Arianne's plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loic Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 At first I was thinking about a single culprit (namely Spotted Sylva), but some time ago these forums suggested me that it was most likely a combination of all her friend.There's a precedent in Ramsay, Roose Bolton and all the Bastard's Boys.In that case the 'punishments' Arianne's friends get are actually new tasks as spies.Arys as a culprit doesn't make any sense on many levels, and if Darkstar was the betrayer he wouldn't have harmed Myrcella, since Doran himself thought it foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I will laugh so hard if it turns out they all talked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dofs Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Didn't Doran say that some of her friends just can't keep their mouths shut and create rumors that then spread through the whole Dorne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 It could be that there was no betrayal, but rather a case of loose lips sink ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Arianne was betrayed by Darkstar. He was Doran's spy, ordered to keep an eye on Arianne. But Darkstar went rogue and tried to kill Myrcella, so that he could win infamy by starting a war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastydream Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Why does everyone write Darkstar in pink oO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dofs Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Why does everyone write Darkstar in pink oO Because he is of the night! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Why does everyone write Darkstar in pink oO Forum tradition ;) Join us, we have cookies :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illrede Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Looking for a friend who was secretly an enemy, that one mistake that meant all efforts were turned to disaster, buys into Arianne's skewed viewpoint. It wasn't a conspiracy directed against her and her desires, it was amateur incompetence. Doran explained it, when he explained why he hadn't brought Arianne in on the family business up until this point. (Although Darkstar does neatly sail through her "who have I had a sexual relationship with" screening criteria for implied conspiratorial trustworthiness.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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