White Walker Texas Ranger Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Yea or Nay? Because the board needs another heated and contentious argument, and tipping and abortion are getting boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 People travel coach? Oh, the humanity...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch-MaesterPhilip Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Yea or Nay? Because the board needs another heated and contentious argument, and tipping and abortion are getting boring. Reclining doesn't help me sleep but it makes being awake the entire flight a little more comfortable so I try to choose seats in the last row to avoid any problems with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I never do, unless I am seated in one of the last rows (either the actual last row or the last row before a divider). The minimal gain in my sleep is not worth inconveniencing the person behind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 What's contentious about it? People who recline their seats on planes are clearly terrible people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 1. I try not to recline and I do get resentful of people who recline in front of me, but Jesus Christ, what an overreacting pair of asshats on this plane. I wish they had been arrested and fined or something -- their stupid fucking argument got a whole plane full of non-asshats diverted and delayed. 2. This is the result of the airlines' steady veal-penning and nickel-and-diming of air travelers. Everybody is uncomfortable and pissed off and often drugged while packed with several hundred other miserable people in a pressurized steel tube 30,000 feet in the sky. It's a wonder we don't get more of these incidents. You'll notice this was the "more comfort" zone -- where you've probably paid anywhere from $50 to $100 each way for an extra couple of inches of leg room, but you're still fucking miserable. The entitled attitude of the asshats in the story was probably exacerbated by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 never. recliners are malfeasors, more highly ranked than officious intermeddlers, but less than fraudulent mediums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Walker Texas Ranger Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 2. This is the result of the airlines' steady veal-penning and nickel-and-diming of air travelers. Everybody is uncomfortable and pissed off and often drugged while packed with several hundred other miserable people in a pressurized steel tube 30,000 feet in the sky. It's a wonder we don't get more of these incidents. You'll notice this was the "more comfort" zone -- where you've probably paid anywhere from $50 to $100 each way for an extra couple of inches of leg room, but you're still fucking miserable. The entitled attitude of the asshats in the story was probably exacerbated by that. This issue (and the existence and financial viability of companies like Spirit Airlines or Ryanair) is our fault as much as it is the airlines'. When we buy plane tickets, we almost always go for the cheapest available, rather than rewarding airlines that offer more comfortable seats or more in-flight amenities. I think part of the problem is that people often pay for flights weeks or even months before actually flying, so that the financial hit is immediate, but the the discomfort is far enough in the future that it might as well not be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeping Sore Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Never flown anything but coach. If I haven't managed to secure an exit row, my knees are naturally wedged up against the seat in front of me. That person literally cannot recline unless they come back and chop my legs off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I recline and would be rather put out if someone put something in my seat that would prevent reclining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady narcissa Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Nope, I won't recline my seat in coach. I have long legs and these days my knees would always be squashed into the back of the seat in front of me as is. No need to make anyone behind me needlessly suffer as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigima Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 It never really occurs to me to put my seat back anymore. Mostly I start out reading and then fall asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S John Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I recline my seat all the time. Fuck whoever is behind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 scot is a confessed recliner. do we even need to have a trial, or can I procure an ex parte order to seize him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempra Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Some people get real pissed off when they can't recline:http://time.com/3181577/knee-defender-flight-united-airlines/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeping Sore Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 scot is a confessed recliner. do we even need to have a trial, or can I procure an ex parte order to seize him? Does this confirm him as Antichrist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Some people get real pissed off when they can't recline:http://time.com/3181577/knee-defender-flight-united-airlines/ The OP was a story about this same incident. This issue (and the existence and financial viability of companies like Spirit Airlines or Ryanair) is our fault as much as it is the airlines'. When we buy plane tickets, we almost always go for the cheapest available, rather than rewarding airlines that offer more comfortable seats or more in-flight amenities. I think part of the problem is that people often pay for flights weeks or even months before actually flying, so that the financial hit is immediate, but the the discomfort is far enough in the future that it might as well not be a problem. It's a fair point. The thing is, are there any domestic carriers that are notably more comfortable than others? Virgin America may spring to mind (and their prices are commensurately higher), but their seats are just as cramped -- they just offer more amenities, which are less important to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elder Sister Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I do recline, but I only go half-way, which is kind of like smoking dope but not inhaling. As in all things, moderation is key. Although reading S. John's response to this thread makes me love him. A lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I recline on transocean flights or very early flights when I (and most others) will try to sleep. Otherwise not: it costs more to the person behind me than it benefits me.But I usually travel in the premium economy section, which offers more legroom anyway. If you are sitting in the regular economy section, a.k.a. cattle, then it's almost impossible to use a laptop even if no-one reclines, and definitely impossible if they do. When I have to travel on an airline other than United, I'm resigned to all the discomforts of no leg room, boarding last (no overhead space) and probably a middle seat -- so I know in advance that it will be a less productive flight.For all those who live to blame airlines for squeezing us, passengers have a very strong history of buying the cheapest option regardless of comfort, so of course the airlines squeeze in more seats to reduce prices. We created this monster. There are premium economy and first class seats available but very few will pay extra for them and yet will still complain. Most people are offered a premium upgrade for only $20 when they check in but still refuse it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 But I usually travel in the premium economy section, which offers more legroom anyway. If you are sitting in the regular economy section, a.k.a. cattle, then it's almost impossible to use a laptop even if no-one reclines, and definitely impossible if they do. When I have to travel on an airline other than United, I'm resigned to all the discomforts of no leg room, boarding last (no overhead space) and probably a middle seat -- so I know in advance that it will be a less productive flight.For all those who live to blame airlines for squeezing us, passengers have a very strong history of buying the cheapest option regardless of comfort, so of course the airlines squeeze in more seats to reduce prices. We created this monster. There are premium economy and first class seats available but very few will pay extra for them and yet will still complain. Most people are offered a premium upgrade for only $20 when they check in but still refuse it. The two people involved in the altercation from the OP were both sitting in the "more legroom" section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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