Bronn Urgandy Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 *tap tap tap* went the staff. We all know Ser Barristan Selmy, that noble Knight, fight with honour, councel with honesty, chivalrous and all that jazz. Unfortunately on top of all that, he is a massive racist. We see it in large parts during a Dance with Dragons, when he refuses time and time again to honour Hizdar as he should be honoured, calling him by the Westerosi custom of "your Grace" instead of the proper title of "your magnificence." This of course is only a minor quibble leading towards the greater whole. Lets look at some other examples. As Strong Belwas is is readying to face the Meerenese champion, Barristan notes that "a chivalrous man would dismount." Pah, maybe in your precious Westeros would such a stupid notion of chivalry exist, but this is the east Barristan, the sun doesn't set here, it rises, and if men want to fight on horseback they bloody well will, thank you very much. Of course, the most notable version is when Dany looks at the Unsullied, Barristan shows nothing but distaste for them and how they are created, *tap tap tap* questioning and disbelieving their lack of fear, saying they aren't real men, noting that they have no valor and don't fight for any cause other than that of who owns them. Of course next he'll be saying he doesn't like the pit fights. Right, put two men in armour and have them batter each other and thats a-okay, strip that armour from them and throw in a crowd and suddenly they're just "dirty foreigners playing at war." Ser Barristan is like those tourists that go to foreign countries for the nice climate, refuse to learn the language and then constantly compare and find criticisms with the local customs as opposed to the country he couldn't stand to be in any longer. Not to mention he spends his entire time urging Danearys to go back to Westeros, even though she is happy out frolicking in the east. I am sorry, but I can't help but wait for the moment for Ser Barristan to suddenly exclaim that old cliche of "I am not a racist, but..." and then launch into a tirade about how Westerosi food is almost certainly better than unborn puppy (yeah right!) and that all the Unsullied will do is take jobs away from good, hard working Westeros peasants. "She'll open the gates to all sorts of riff raff" will be the next sentence to escape. He basically went to Essos to give johnny foreigner a good slap and is now looking down the barrel of johnny foreigner returning the favour and all of a sudden he can't take it. I am sorry to post this, but the man just makes me so angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLionOfTheRock Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 *tap tap tap* went the staff. We all know Ser Barristan Selmy, that noble Knight, fight with honour, councel with honesty, chivalrous and all that jazz. Unfortunately on top of all that, he is a massive racist. We see it in large parts during a Dance with Dragons, when he refuses time and time again to honour Hizdar as he should be honoured, calling him by the Westerosi custom of "your Grace" instead of the proper title of "your magnificence." This of course is only a minor quibble leading towards the greater whole. Lets look at some other examples. As Strong Belwas is is readying to face the Meerenese champion, Barristan notes that "a chivalrous man would dismount." Pah, maybe in your precious Westeros would such a stupid notion of chivalry exist, but this is the east Barristan, the sun doesn't set here, it rises, and if men want to fight on horseback they bloody well will, thank you very much. Of course, the most notable version is when Dany looks at the Unsullied, Barristan shows nothing but distaste for them and how they are created, *tap tap tap* questioning and disbelieving their lack of fear, saying they aren't real men, noting that they have no valor and don't fight for any cause other than that of who owns them. Of course next he'll be saying he doesn't like the pit fights. Right, put two men in armour and have them batter each other and thats a-okay, strip that armour from them and throw in a crowd and suddenly they're just "dirty foreigners playing at war." Ser Barristan is like those tourists that go to foreign countries for the nice climate, refuse to learn the language and then constantly compare and find criticisms with the local customs as opposed to the country he couldn't stand to be in any longer. Not to mention he spends his entire time urging Danearys to go back to Westeros, even though she is happy out frolicking in the east. I am sorry, but I can't help but wait for the moment for Ser Barristan to suddenly exclaim that old cliche of "I am not a racist, but..." and then launch into a tirade about how Westerosi food is almost certainly better than unborn puppy (yeah right!) and that all the Unsullied will do is take jobs away from good, hard working Westeros peasants. "She'll open the gates to all sorts of riff raff" will be the next sentence to escape. He basically went to Essos to give johnny foreigner a good slap and is now looking down the barrel of johnny foreigner returning the favour and all of a sudden he can't take it. I am sorry to post this, but the man just makes me so angry. You seem to feel quite strongly about this. I was taking you seriously up until "Westerosi food is almost certainly better than unborn puppy (yeah right!) then I just burst out laughing. Maybe, you should talk to GRRM about this, if you feel it is a real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I'd agree with you if the Ghiscari culture wasn't so vile and worthy of hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willofDorne Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Nah, he's alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gendry_Goldeneyes Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 You forgot in Dance when he mentions how small Belwas' member is for a disgusting savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJD Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 *tap tap tap* went the staff. We all know Ser Barristan Selmy, that noble Knight, fight with honour, councel with honesty, chivalrous and all that jazz. Unfortunately on top of all that, he is a massive racist. We see it in large parts during a Dance with Dragons, when he refuses time and time again to honour Hizdar as he should be honoured, calling him by the Westerosi custom of "your Grace" instead of the proper title of "your magnificence." This of course is only a minor quibble leading towards the greater whole. Lets look at some other examples. As Strong Belwas is is readying to face the Meerenese champion, Barristan notes that "a chivalrous man would dismount." Pah, maybe in your precious Westeros would such a stupid notion of chivalry exist, but this is the east Barristan, the sun doesn't set here, it rises, and if men want to fight on horseback they bloody well will, thank you very much. Of course, the most notable version is when Dany looks at the Unsullied, Barristan shows nothing but distaste for them and how they are created, *tap tap tap* questioning and disbelieving their lack of fear, saying they aren't real men, noting that they have no valor and don't fight for any cause other than that of who owns them. Of course next he'll be saying he doesn't like the pit fights. Right, put two men in armour and have them batter each other and thats a-okay, strip that armour from them and throw in a crowd and suddenly they're just "dirty foreigners playing at war." Ser Barristan is like those tourists that go to foreign countries for the nice climate, refuse to learn the language and then constantly compare and find criticisms with the local customs as opposed to the country he couldn't stand to be in any longer. Not to mention he spends his entire time urging Danearys to go back to Westeros, even though she is happy out frolicking in the east. I am sorry, but I can't help but wait for the moment for Ser Barristan to suddenly exclaim that old cliche of "I am not a racist, but..." and then launch into a tirade about how Westerosi food is almost certainly better than unborn puppy (yeah right!) and that all the Unsullied will do is take jobs away from good, hard working Westeros peasants. "She'll open the gates to all sorts of riff raff" will be the next sentence to escape. He basically went to Essos to give johnny foreigner a good slap and is now looking down the barrel of johnny foreigner returning the favour and all of a sudden he can't take it. I am sorry to post this, but the man just makes me so angry. Some of Barristan's best friends are Griscari... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willofDorne Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 You forgot in Dance when he mentions how small Belwas' member is for a disgusting savage. lol, I need to see this quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Don't you dare stop making threads, these awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gendry_Goldeneyes Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Some of Barristan's best friends are Griscari... The Shavepate is just a token he keeps around so he can say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I am sorry to post this, but the man just makes me so angry.It's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 He also called himself Arstan Whitebeard. That's kind of a white supremacy thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserys - The last dragon Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Seems like that these days everyone loves to accuse others of being a racist. "The fascists of the future will be called the anti-fascists". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJD Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The Shavepate is just a token he keeps around so he can say that It was just a joke in the vein of "Some of my best friends are black" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scklar Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 favorite thing iv read on these forums so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 He also called himself Arstan Whitebeard. That's kind of a white supremacy thought. Whitebeard is an old-guy supremacy name. Barristan's the living embodiment of "Getting old ain't for wimps". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gendry_Goldeneyes Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 It was just a joke in the vein of "Some of my best friends are black" lol so was mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 *tap tap tap* went the staff. *snip* Amazingly well-done post, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamoDega Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 *tap tap tap* went the staff. We all know Ser Barristan Selmy, that noble Knight, fight with honour, councel with honesty, chivalrous and all that jazz. Unfortunately on top of all that, he is a massive racist. We see it in large parts during a Dance with Dragons, when he refuses time and time again to honour Hizdar as he should be honoured, calling him by the Westerosi custom of "your Grace" instead of the proper title of "your magnificence." This of course is only a minor quibble leading towards the greater whole. Lets look at some other examples. As Strong Belwas is is readying to face the Meerenese champion, Barristan notes that "a chivalrous man would dismount." Pah, maybe in your precious Westeros would such a stupid notion of chivalry exist, but this is the east Barristan, the sun doesn't set here, it rises, and if men want to fight on horseback they bloody well will, thank you very much. Of course, the most notable version is when Dany looks at the Unsullied, Barristan shows nothing but distaste for them and how they are created, *tap tap tap* questioning and disbelieving their lack of fear, saying they aren't real men, noting that they have no valor and don't fight for any cause other than that of who owns them. Of course next he'll be saying he doesn't like the pit fights. Right, put two men in armour and have them batter each other and thats a-okay, strip that armour from them and throw in a crowd and suddenly they're just "dirty foreigners playing at war." Ser Barristan is like those tourists that go to foreign countries for the nice climate, refuse to learn the language and then constantly compare and find criticisms with the local customs as opposed to the country he couldn't stand to be in any longer. Not to mention he spends his entire time urging Danearys to go back to Westeros, even though she is happy out frolicking in the east. I am sorry, but I can't help but wait for the moment for Ser Barristan to suddenly exclaim that old cliche of "I am not a racist, but..." and then launch into a tirade about how Westerosi food is almost certainly better than unborn puppy (yeah right!) and that all the Unsullied will do is take jobs away from good, hard working Westeros peasants. "She'll open the gates to all sorts of riff raff" will be the next sentence to escape. He basically went to Essos to give johnny foreigner a good slap and is now looking down the barrel of johnny foreigner returning the favour and all of a sudden he can't take it. I am sorry to post this, but the man just makes me so angry. And here we go again, 2nd time today i see something of that kind You sound butthurt about an old knight who live in a medieval/renassaince fantasy "europe" that don't follow 2014 media PC etiquette, lol And btw if we want make a parallel between pit fighters and Roman age gladiators... even back in roman age, fight in the arena was'nt considered "honourable" thing, at all. If anything most of Roman army officials will share the same opinion of the old foreigner knight, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 And here we go again, 2nd time today i see something of that kind You sound butthurt about an old knight who live in a medieval/renassaince fantasy "europe" that don't follow 2014 media PC etiquette, lol And btw if we want make a parallel between pit fighters and Roman age gladiators... even back in roman age, fight in the arena was'nt considered "honourable" thing, at all.If anything most of Roman army officials will share the same opinion of the old foreigner knight, lolDude, this is a joke thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Malenkirk Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Dude, this is a joke thread. And a pretty good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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