Circle_breaker Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I actually always pictured the Union as having american accents. especially in The Heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Just finished Last Arguments of Kings and was very impressed with ending. I love these books and I'm go to start The Heroes tonight. I read a review so we're basically sticking to the same story, same characters? So is Bayaz gonna be featured prominently? I figured he would stay in the shadows. Like how he was doing before the series began. Please don't spoil me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Just finished Last Arguments of Kings and was very impressed with ending. I love these books and I'm go to start The Heroes tonight. I read a review so we're basically sticking to the same story, same characters? While the three books are billed as "standalone" novels... I really wouldn't read them out of order. I'd read Best Served Cold before The Heroes. While the stories really can be read separately, reading The Heroes will feature a "minor" character who was a major character in BSC and Heroes will ruin the progress you get from his story. Just my opinion, but I think its held up through the many iterations of the "What order should I read Abercrombie" threads that seem to crop up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Yeah, do not read The Heroes before Best Served Cold. It will spoil the shit out of some of the best parts of BSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 While the three books are billed as "standalone" novels... I really wouldn't read them out of order. I'd read Best Served Cold before The Heroes. While the stories really can be read separately, reading The Heroes will feature a "minor" character who was a major character in BSC and Heroes will ruin the progress you get from his story.Just my opinion, but I think its held up through the many iterations of the "What order should I read Abercrombie" threads that seem to crop up.That's my bad, I am starting Best Served Cold. I guess The Hero's was in my mind because I just read both reviews. Damn Rhom last night a base a argument about k state beating Auburn ( wich I was wrong) and today this. I'm going senile and I'm only 34.ETA: But, I thank the both of you! I just checked out reading order and the reviews. Man, my 20's must've done some damage, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Heroes is definitely awesome, but in order is best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilusmagnus Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Samwell Joramun, now that you're done with the trilogy, and that You know that Malacus Quai was actually Tolomei, can you tell me what made you guess that he was not who he claimed? Because I had no idea before the reveal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Hmmm, everyone in BTaH while on their journey through The Old Empire, kept having thoughts that something was wrong with him. Talked how he started looking sickly and how he would just stare off and not say much to anyone. Three things were the clincher though. First, when Jezal was finally able to eat and he chowed down his horse stew and was searching for more, Qaui offered up his with no hesitation. That's odd, seeming how they were down to rotten meat and whatever they could scavenge. Secondly, when Bayaz is knocked out from using too much magic (I presume), he shows no worry or emotion, just sets and stares at him. Finally, when they found what they thought was the seed, I felt like he was ready to kill for it by his reaction.Eta: grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CityApache Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yeah, there certainly were a lot of hints, the most obvious being that during their journey west he was acting completely different than at the beginning. His interactions with Logen were practically non-existent. With a man that saved his life, his only actual friend! But I admit I rather thought he wasn't a friend of Bayaz from the beginning and was only a master of disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yeah, there certainly were a lot of hints, the most obvious being that during their journey west he was acting completely different than at the beginning. His interactions with Logen were practically non-existent. With a man that saved his life, his only actual friend! But I admit I rather thought he wasn't a friend of Bayaz from the beginning and was only a master of disguise.Yes definitely his interactions with him fell off and to your second point, I had weird feeling about him from the beginning too. But, didn't get what I needed til BTaH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 There was definitely something odd about Malacus after the first book, but I don't see the evidence for guessing what actually happened. Just that something did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 There was definitely something odd about Malacus after the first book, but I don't see the evidence for guessing what actually happened. Just that something did.No I never guessed what happened. My post was a few pages back. I said something along the lines of he is something other than what he seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I didn't think it wasn't him. I just thought that he'd got disillusioned with Bayaz abilities after seeing him weakened to such a degree after using his art. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilusmagnus Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 I just personnally thought he hated Bayaz because Bayaz was a dick to him which is enough reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimereborn Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Samwell Joramun, now that you're done with the trilogy, and that You know that Malacus Quai was actually Tolomei, can you tell me what made you guess that he was not who he claimed? Because I had no idea before the reveal! wow thanks for covering that with spoiler warnings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilusmagnus Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 Well, spoilers are necessary if they concern a part situated after the OP's progress, which is me. And I'm halfway into Best Served Cold. But I'll say it in the title if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Pilusmagnus, to the defense of @jamiereborn, when I made my first post I said I would stay away til I finished. And you said I was more than welcome, that everyone would spoilers. Maybe he seen that comment. Not, trying to be a prick, just remember you saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilusmagnus Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 I was actually making an exception for you, but that is actually true, so sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilusmagnus Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 I just found out that the First Law Wiki was in dire need of contributions. Most pages are half-empty. Even Glokta's story in BTAH and LAOK is not covered. I already did some contributions and perhaps some of you feel like doing some as well. http://firstlaw.wikia.com/wiki/First_Law_Wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I was actually making an exception for you, but that is actually true, so sorry.Yea, I started a Malazan thread while reading the series. I wanted it to be a place where I could ask ?'s and have them answered. Same thing happened to me, so I just made it so that if it could spoil anyone, just tag it. Its not hard to do, and keeps your thread full of discussion. I'm not suggesting anything to you, its your thread and have been very hospitable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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