Game of Thrones pulling a Full Metal Alchemist?

[Ivashanko]

A lot of people around here (and a bunch of other sites) seem to believe that the show will absolutely overtake the show and show the real ending to the books. I don't think that's likely. I think that Martin would never allow someone else to tell his life's story, and that he'll make the show do what FMA did the first time around.

For the (probably) many here who don't know, Full Metal Alchemist is an anime show that ran two series: the first one was created when the directors knew they would overtake the manga, and so they made a lot of things very similar up to the point where they caught up, and then began dovetailing widely in a different direction. The second series followed the original plot much more directly. I'm not certain that a second Game of Thrones TV series will be out anytime soon, but I'm sure that there will still be a lot of money in it ten years from the completion of the current series. And I think that it is more likely than not that this series (even if a second series is never made) will not have the 'book' ending for A Series of Ice and Fire.

[JRose1989]

If the show does overtake A Dream Of Spring (which is becoming ever more likely as the months pass...) I'm guessing they will do something in between

George has told them how the series ends, so I doubt they will just shelve that knowledge. He told them for a reason.

I'm guessing we will come to the same conclusion, just taking various different paths to get there.

For example, the RW. Same result, different way of getting there.

[ADB]

There's no way that they're just going to completely change the ending. Not a chance. HBO isn't going to pay as much as it has to Martin and then not get the property they paid for. So while details might be different, it's going to be basically the same.

[sj4iy]

The show will overtake the books because I see no way for Martin to put out two 1500-page books in 3 years at the pace he's been writing for the last decade.

The showrunners have said that they find Martin's ending is very satisfying, and they have given no indication that they plan on changing it.

I think people will just have to get over it.

[Ivashanko]

I would say I hope that a few filler seasons intervene, but I think it would have to be too many such seasons before the last book comes out.

I still hope that they swerve off in an entirely different direction though. I think it is possible, but I'm honestly not too sure how to mark spoilers in this forum. Anyways somethings that happened in prior books aren't happening in the TV show, and things that will happen in the next book can't happen in the show (well, at least one thing).

It still isn't probable, though.

[Relic]

I've got two theories. First one is that Martin will change his ending once the gig is up via HBO. Second is that he'll just lose interest in finishing. Neither one of those makes me happy.

He should have just sold them the right to the first three books.

[JagLover]

The show will overtake the books because I see no way for Martin to put out two 1500-page books in 3 years at the pace he's been writing for the last decade.

The showrunners have said that they find Martin's ending is very satisfying, and they have given no indication that they plan on changing it.

I think people will just have to get over it.

Yep

Probably our only chance to see the ending as well (other than in the release of notes or finished off by another author). Let us hope it is close as possible.

[Ingelheim]

I've got two theories. First one is that Martin will change his ending once the gig is up via HBO. Second is that he'll just lose interest in finishing. Neither one of those makes me happy.

He should have just sold them the right to the first three books.

The most likely is...the show will spoil the ending, and both us and Martin will have to deal with it.

I've already prepared myself. It's not that bad.

[Myrddin]

At this point, I just want to see the ending. I've been reading the novels for nearly half my life.

I'll take HBO's Martin-blessed ending.

[King Cheops]

GRRM likes the fame and money enough that I'm sure he'll substantially change the ending compared to the show so that he can sell some movie rights like he is suddenly so interested in doing. Unfortunately he has discovered that it is much easier to get paid to show up at conventions than it is to actually write so I wouldn't hold your breath.

[sj4iy]

GRRM likes the fame and money enough that I'm sure he'll substantially change the ending compared to the show so that he can sell some movie rights like he is suddenly so interested in doing. Unfortunately he has discovered that it is much easier to get paid to show up at conventions than it is to actually write so I wouldn't hold your breath.

He can't change the ending and then 'sell the movie rights'. HBO bought the rights to ALL of the books, even the unwritten ones, so he's already 'sold' the rights.

[Reznak mo Reznak]

GRRM likes the fame and money enough that I'm sure he'll substantially change the ending compared to the show so that he can sell some movie rights like he is suddenly so interested in doing. Unfortunately he has discovered that it is much easier to get paid to show up at conventions than it is to actually write so I wouldn't hold your breath.

You know him personally I take it?

[Pecan]

There will be three more seasons for sure, maybe four if they stretch it to eight seasons total. It's almost certain we'll get the ending on the show before the books, though if it goes eight seasons I suppose there is some possibility George finishes first. His track record doesn't support that notion, but the possibility exists. Of course, I'm assuming that there are only two books left, which seems a stretch. If two becomes three, then it's all over. The show will win.

[JagLover]

At this point, I just want to see the ending. I've been reading the novels for nearly half my life.

I'll take HBO's Martin-blessed ending.

I feel the same

and despite the show missing out many of the characters introduced in the 'middle' part of the story it would not surprise me if they can still have an ending that is 95% accurate to GRRM plan. I suspect that most of the plotlines/characters introduced in AFFC/ADWD are 'closed loops' that will be resolved before the end game.

[sj4iy]

I feel the same

and despite the show missing out many of the characters introduced in the 'middle' part of the story it would not surprise me if they can still have an ending that is 95% accurate to GRRM plan. I suspect that most of the plotlines/characters introduced in AFFC/ADWD are 'closed loops' that will be resolved before the end game.

I agree with this.

[Beric175]

You know what? If they do, people can still stop watching halfway through the last season of they want to know more or less where it's going without getting the definite ending from the books spoiled for them. Problem solved.

[El Guapo]

A lot of people around here (and a bunch of other sites) seem to believe that the show will absolutely overtake the show and show the real ending to the books. I don't think that's likely. I think that Martin would never allow someone else to tell his life's story, and that he'll make the show do what FMA did the first time around.

For the (probably) many here who don't know, Full Metal Alchemist is an anime show that ran two series: the first one was created when the directors knew they would overtake the manga, and so they made a lot of things very similar up to the point where they caught up, and then began dovetailing widely in a different direction. The second series followed the original plot much more directly. I'm not certain that a second Game of Thrones TV series will be out anytime soon, but I'm sure that there will still be a lot of money in it ten years from the completion of the current series. And I think that it is more likely than not that this series (even if a second series is never made) will not have the 'book' ending for A Series of Ice and Fire.

He can't make the show do anything. He sold the rights to his story to HBO and they can do whatever the hell they want with it.

[Ivashanko]

You know what? If they do, people can still stop watching halfway through the last season of they want to know more or less where it's going without getting the definite ending from the books spoiled for them. Problem solved.

Until the ending is spoiled for them by friends, the internet, random people talking on the street, evil family members, etc.

He can't make the show do anything. He sold the rights to his story to HBO and they can do whatever the hell they want with it.

This I did not know. I assumed he made a similar contract to others who sell their still-being-completed stories.

[sj4iy]

Until the ending is spoiled for them by friends, the internet, random people talking on the street, evil family members, etc.

That's the risk you run by not watching a popular show. I didn't watch Breaking Bad or the Sopranos and I still know exactly what happened in their last seasons. I'm sure the last season of GoT will be the same, but I guess if someone tries to actively avoid it, they might be successful. It will just be really difficult.

This I did not know. I assumed he made a similar contract to others who sell their still-being-completed stories.

From what we know, he sold the rights to HBO for the entire series, including the unwritten books. If I recall correctly, I remember hearing that HBO wouldn't have taken it on unless they had assurances that they could finish the series by knowing the entire story (which is not unusual).

[mediterraneo]

Well, I'm sorry, I would be between the ones spoiled.

While you can try not to know something about an oscure, genre, 10 years old book you cannot avoid information on a mass fenomenon.
You have pubblicity on the walls, on the buses... You have Emmy presentations, spots on other TV shows, you have to shut your Facebook and Twitter up because of the smartasses that feel that they have the right of talking about what they want in public... (Wait... everybody does have that right ...I meant...I meant... ehm.).
There are and there will be trolls writing things happening in the show in @Obama hashtags and things...
You will not be able to watch the lots of talk show that will reference to a series aired two years ago with freedom, not with the need of hiding any detail. You will have things like someone saying: "this is the worst betrayal since when Tyrion Lannister killed Jaime!". (Just an hipotetical example, not a spoiler).
You will notice which characters are lacking from the street pubblicity boards...

In that case, I'll advise anybody to just whatch it on TV and at least enjoy it as a TV show, and not as a violent act of trolling by someone else.

And by the way: the ones claiming for an ending, any ending, even if poorly executed, are right.
I want to know how and when my favourites die. If we hadn't the show, and Martin decided that he lost his writing inspiation (dedicating himself totally to producing videogames about Wildcards or something like that) I would forever miss the resolution of a lot of things I will not mention because they would still be spoilers.
I feel the need for an ending, any ending, as soon as possible.

And if this kills some Starks, then be it... :devil:
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