Poppa Chase Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I want to make a list of the admitted mistakes by GRRM, and sources as well to help. I don't have any sources, but these are the ones I've heard.Renly's eye color in A Game of Thrones, changes from blue to green.The amount if gold in the tournament of the hand prizes is far too much.Jeyne Westerling is presented by separate characters as having different sized hips.Anyone know anymore? Or sources for these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Has GRRM really admitted that Jeyne Westerling's hips are a mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand that holds Dawn Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 at the end of AFFC, he states that ADWD will be out in about a year..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steller Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 at the end of AFFC, he states that ADWD will be out in about a year.....Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Before it's revealed who Aegon really is, Tyrion calls him a Prince already. I know that by that time, he has already figured it out, but it's kinda messed up for us, readers. at the end of AFFC, he states that ADWD will be out in about a year..... :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Didn't he say he made the Wall far too tall, like almost impossibly so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard of the Rainking Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 How on Planetos is the North as large as the other six kingdoms combined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Has GRRM really admitted that Jeyne Westerling's hips are a mistake?Thats what I heard through the grapevine. It totally debunked my theories on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaselPie Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 The only "mistakes" he admits to are vaguely about eye color and the sex of some horses. He says otherwise his "mistakes" are intentional and all "misinformation" is the result of differing POV's. Val's eye color changes as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 The only "mistakes" he admits to are vaguely about eye color and the sex of some horses. He says otherwise his "mistakes" are intentional and all "misinformation" is the result of differing POV's. Val's eye color changes as well.I know the certain ones are supposed to be there. But I want to figure out what stuff he has admitted are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Thats what I heard through the grapevine. It totally debunked my theories on her. "heard through the gravevine" and "totally debunked" are contradictions in terms. Sounds to me like your theories might be still viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Has GRRM really admitted that Jeyne Westerling's hips are a mistake? http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Union_Square_Signing1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Man Has Said Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 He started the novels with some of the younger characters too damned young (Arya and Bran in particular.)This is what made the 5-year gap necessary, and his strategic decision to eliminate the gap was not handled well at all.AGoT spans about 15 months of in-universe time, but as the series progresses each novel spans less time when it should span more.ASoS and ADwD TOGETHER only span about 8 months, when they should have spanned YEARS to make up for the lack of the gap. Those are strategic mistakes that affect the entire progress of the books, (and also how long it's been taking him to write them) not details like eye colour or whether someone's horse is a mare or a gelding. But they are mistakes, and very serious ones that limit what he can do with those characters in the books to come. If you've read the preview chapter "Mercy" ... Mercy (aka Arya) is doing things at the age of 11 that, when GRRM wrote it, he intended her to be at least 15 or 16. (It was written BEFORE ASoS/ADwD, and before he'd abandoned the gap.) This makes it far more controversial than it should be, and there are certain areas where he can't go without risking criminal charges for creating child pornography. I'd say that's as serious as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Man Has Said Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Didn't he say he made the Wall far too tall, like almost impossibly so? I'm pretty sure you're right about that one. :agree: There's an anecdote about GRRM visiting the set where they shoot the Castle Black scenes, and looking at the wall (the side of a quarry in Wales painted white and blue) and exclaiming, "That's FAR higher than I imagined!" The quarry wall was about 200' IIRC, the wall in the books is 700' high. But GRRM is innumerate. I doubt he could do arithmetic up to a 6th grade level. Realistically the wall would be maybe 70 ft. high, or 100. He's also no damn good with distances or the time it takes to travel them, and I've already mentioned that he has serious problems with time in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiasyd Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Union_Square_Signing1 This SSM entry is weird, as there is no proper author referenced... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Jaime was Warden of the East and then he wasn' cause new Kingsguard rules. Maiden's Day comes out of nowhere in Book 4. Tyrion's acrobatics are physically impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Union_Square_Signing1 Thanks. Though I'm not sure we should take this as official. It's not straight from the source; and GRRM is probably of the opinion that people should not be asking him questions at all at a book signing. And does he mean "it was a mistake for me to give so obvious a clue" ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 This SSM entry is weird, as there is no proper author referenced... Submitted by a member called livewyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 He started the novels with some of the younger characters too damned young (Arya and Bran in particular.)This is what made the 5-year gap necessary, and his strategic decision to eliminate the gap was not handled well at all.AGoT spans about 15 months of in-universe time, but as the series progresses each novel spans less time when it should span more.ASoS and ADwD TOGETHER only span about 8 months, when they should have spanned YEARS to make up for the lack of the gap. Those are strategic mistakes that affect the entire progress of the books, (and also how long it's been taking him to write them) not details like eye colour or whether someone's horse is a mare or a gelding. But they are mistakes, and very serious ones that limit what he can do with those characters in the books to come. If you've read the preview chapter "Mercy" ... Mercy (aka Arya) is doing things at the age of 11 that, when GRRM wrote it, he intended her to be at least 15 or 16. (It was written BEFORE ASoS/ADwD, and before he'd abandoned the gap.) This makes it far more controversial than it should be, and there are certain areas where he can't go without risking criminal charges for creating child pornography. I'd say that's as serious as it gets.I did read that chapter and it was disturbing for sure. What gets me is that his editor said he read a controversial Sansa chapter, should have been Arya, unless.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Didn't he say he made the Wall far too tall, like almost impossibly so? Almost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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