Consigliere Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Thanks. Though I'm not sure we should take this as official. It's not straight from the source; and GRRM is probably of the opinion that people should not be asking him questions at all at a book signing. And does he mean "it was a mistake for me to give so obvious a clue" ...? Well most of the SSM's are submitted by members of this forum who have taken notes and asked GRRM questions at conventions and such. The only ones that we can confirm as being straight from the mouth of GRRM are the videos. And trying to find specific stuff from the video collection is impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salafi Stannis Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 There's a post on another topic which I believe perfectly sums up my opinion of this thread: SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER!!!SHUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Of The Night Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Renly's eye color in A Game of Thrones, changes from blue to green.To be fair, my eyes change from blue to a shade of green. Its not a common trait but it does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I think the Cersei/Jaime incest thing was a mistake. He gave them the wrong father/last name. Man he is just screwing that up mightily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 The population of Westeros seems to be quite smaller than it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiasyd Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Submitted by a member called livewyre. As I said, no proper author reference. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 As I said, no proper author reference. :rolleyes: Like I said upthread, most of the SSM's are submitted by members of this forum. Take it or leave it. You will not find an SSM that is submitted by Martin himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Well most of the SSM's are submitted by members of this forum who have taken notes and asked GRRM questions at conventions and such. The only ones that we can confirm as being straight from the mouth of GRRM are the videos. And trying to find specific stuff from the video collection is impossible. And I have occasionally compared his videos to his words as reported, and found that his words were reported incorrectly. I'm not saying we should necessarily ignore this, though. We can give it some weight, but with a grain of salt. After all, if he really wants to, it is perfectly within his power to release an official errata list. If he chooses not to do so, it is not entirely unreasonable for fans to rely on the official text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 And I have occasionally compared his videos to his words as reported, and found that his words were reported incorrectly. I'm not saying we should necessarily ignore this, though. We can give it some weight, but with a grain of salt. After all, if he really wants to, it is perfectly within his power to release an official errata list. If he chooses not to do so, it is not entirely unreasonable for fans to rely on the official text. I don't disagree. Some people have been known to paraphrase. The OP asked for a source and this is the only one I am aware of wrt Jeyne's hips. It's up to each individual to decide how much weight they wish to prescibe it. We will only know for certain when TWoW is published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiasyd Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 And I have occasionally compared his videos to his words as reported, and found that his words were reported incorrectly. I'm not saying we should necessarily ignore this, though. We can give it some weight, but with a grain of salt. After all, if he really wants to, it is perfectly within his power to release an official errata list. If he chooses not to do so, it is not entirely unreasonable for fans to rely on the official text. Exactly, there are a lot of SSMs which are links to video interviews or press interviews of known sources but this particular SSM is a private response to an unnamed forum user... That doesn't mean it's false, but it doesn't carry the same weight as a direct quote from GRRM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Martell Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Sell the rights to HBO.... financially and PR-ly, great idea. Creatively, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Of The Night Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Taking 6000 years between books is a bit of a mistake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomUser191 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Jaime was Warden of the East and then he wasn' cause new Kingsguard rules.Maiden's Day comes out of nowhere in Book 4.Tyrion's acrobatics are physically impossible. i remember an old interview, in which the interviewer asks GRRM what would he have writen differently, if he had the chance and he says that one of the changes would be that specific jump (or whatever it was, i can't remember) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Taking 6000 years between books is a bit of a mistake... But it is not a mistake that he has admitted. 6000 years is merely the time it takes to produce Great Art! And anyone who thinks otherwise must receive a smashed guitar and make a tearful apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonin Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 He started the novels with some of the younger characters too damned young (Arya and Bran in particular.)This is what made the 5-year gap necessary, and his strategic decision to eliminate the gap was not handled well at all.AGoT spans about 15 months of in-universe time, but as the series progresses each novel spans less time when it should span more.ASoS and ADwD TOGETHER only span about 8 months, when they should have spanned YEARS to make up for the lack of the gap. Those are strategic mistakes that affect the entire progress of the books, (and also how long it's been taking him to write them) not details like eye colour or whether someone's horse is a mare or a gelding. But they are mistakes, and very serious ones that limit what he can do with those characters in the books to come. If you've read the preview chapter "Mercy" ... Mercy (aka Arya) is doing things at the age of 11 that, when GRRM wrote it, he intended her to be at least 15 or 16. (It was written BEFORE ASoS/ADwD, and before he'd abandoned the gap.) This makes it far more controversial than it should be, and there are certain areas where he can't go without risking criminal charges for creating child pornography. I'd say that's as serious as it gets. :agree: grrm has not done a very good job with the passage of time in his novels. Wars and travel took a very long time during medieval times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stateofdissipation Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I might mention, though, that Ned's account, which you refer to, was in the context of a dream... and a fever dream at that. Our dreams are not always literal.http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Concerning_the_Tower_of_Joy Ned does not have a fever in chapter 39. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Second To Last Dragon Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 To be fair, my eyes change from blue to a shade of green. Its not a common trait but it does happen.same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narvi Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Taking 6000 years between books is a bit of a mistake...As long as HE finishes the story idc how long he takes. Though the author that finished the Wheel of Time series did well I'd been happier with Jordan. Who pays attention to hip size in books? Nerds jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I might mention, though, that Ned's account, which you refer to, was in the context of a dream... and a fever dream at that. Our dreams are not always literal. http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Concerning_the_Tower_of_Joy Ned does not have a fever in chapter 39. True but he does admit that he's hopped up on MotP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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