Lord Ross Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Yes, certainly. Although you wouldn't believe it when you read one of those 'when did you start liking Stannis' threads. They are full of people who claim that they loved the Stanman with a passion from day one. As if somehow, you can only be a Stannatic if you loved him from the get go. Stannis wasn't an amiable man in ACOK and early ASOS. Perfectly logical not to like him then. The end of ASOS and then his fantastic presence in ADWD and Theon's sample chapter for tWoW (one of the best chapters GRRM has written to be sure, even anti-Stans must admit) turned many to his side. Initially I hated Stannis, I kinda blamed him for Ned's death. Although that's probably not fair. I respected him for the "peach" monologue. Gave a bit of depth to him. His reaction to the loss at the black water and his respect for Davos mean I can never really dislike him. I didn't like him until I watched the show. "...and then the cats, never liked cats, so fine. I do like dogs, good animals, loyal, but fine we ate them....". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amoracchius Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Jojenpaste is more dead now than it ever was. If Jojen death had such a specific role (being ground into paste to awake Bran's powers), he wouldn't have been blown into smithereens. Apart from the fact that it was always bullshit, because no way would all this drama happen of stage. The only thing the show has confirmed is that Jojen will die. I don't think many people who opposed Jojenpaste thought Jojen was in the running for a happy ever after ending, so nobody has seen his alternative theory going to waste. I believe we'll see Jojen die on page, in tWoW. The Jojenpaste theory is based on things that happened in the last Bran chapter of the most recently published book, so it's certainly not an early theory. As for being disproven, I don't think the show's depiction makes a difference either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Cold Fingers Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 I just did a Google search with the search dates that predate AFfC. Then searched ASOIAF Theories. So apparently the R+L=J has been around a LOOONNNG time. Here are some I read.That Ned was still alive and Varys put a pretender in his place and is hiding NedArya will end up with DaenerysSam becomes a great warrior similar to how Rhaegar was first booksmart then one day decided he needed to become a warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visenya Stark Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 [*]Sam becomes a great warrior similar to how Rhaegar was first booksmart then one day decided he needed to become a warriorI suppose this is part of the whole "Sam is Rhaegar's son" theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Cold Fingers Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 I suppose this is part of the whole "Sam is Rhaegar's son" theory. They didn't specify that on what I read but that's what I would assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amoracchius Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I suppose this is part of the whole "Sam is Rhaegar's son" theory. Time out: That's a theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Cold Fingers Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Time out: That's a theory? Sadly...yes. I think someone thought of it when all other possibilities have already been considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Cold Fingers Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Time out: That's a theory? Prepare to have your mine blown...or just a serious case of the rolling of the eyes. Samwell is Rhaegar & Lyanna's Son This is just one such thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Prepare to have your mine blown...or just a serious case of the rolling of the eyes. Samwell is Rhaegar & Lyanna's Son This is just one such thread. The Black hawk was a master in these kind of threads XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitron Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I suppose this is part of the whole "Sam is Rhaegar's son" theory. Well, he and Jon appear to have been born at just about the same time. He's sent to the Wall just after his 15th nameday, and Jon's up there and his 15th passes without Benjen being back for it the way he was supposed to have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Well, he and Jon appear to have been born at just about the same time. He's sent to the Wall just after his 15th nameday, and Jon's up there and his 15th passes without Benjen being back for it the way he was supposed to have been.And a book later it is specifically stated that Sam is older than Jon.. while Sam had already turend 16, Jon is still 15.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amoracchius Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Prepare to have your mine blown...or just a serious case of the rolling of the eyes. Samwell is Rhaegar & Lyanna's Son This is just one such thread. /facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shimel Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Maybe Jon is the son of Wun Wun and an Ice Spider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Cold Fingers Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 Maybe Jon is the son of Wun Wun and an Ice Spider. I thought that was fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Maybe Jon is the son of Wun Wun and an Ice Spider.Wun Wun translates to Da Da in the common tongue, it is known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 "Jojen Paste" has officially been ruled out by the App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 As far as I know, that didn't happen. He did say a few people have worked out some of the major points, but nothing about changing the ending or about any one person having figured out the whole thing.Quite so. He said he'd be cheating if he altered the endings, simply because some readers had figured them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 The Black hawk was a master in these kind of threads XDMy favourite absurd theories are:-1. Dany is an allegory for Jesus Christ.2. Dany is the child of Rhaegar and Rhaella.3. Sansa is LF's daughter, after he rode to Winterfell, drugged Catelyn and raped her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Widow of Coldmoat Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 "Jojen Paste" has officially been ruled out by the App Could you elaborate on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 "Jojen Paste" has officially been ruled out by the App I can't download the app, could you perhaps quote the important part of the entry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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