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I read somewhere where George RR Martin has said there will be more than a few marriages in Winds of Winter. Here are the ones I think and how they happen and I want to know what you think.



Jon Snow (Stark) to Val-I do not believe Jon is dead, I think he will come back to life maybe with a combination of the Red God power to bring his body back to life and Bran/old Gods pushing him out of Ghost and back into his own body. Once he died he is free of the Night’s Watch (If there is any left after the Wildlings are done with them for turning on Jon) Jon has already said he thought Ghost and Val looked like they belong to each other and that she was worthy of any lord. Also she seems to like Jon, how she played with him before she headed North on the half blind horse. Now since coming back he would be free of the Watch and Robb’s will likely named him King in the North, so a wedding between Val who is highly respected by the Wildling and Jon would bond the Wildlings to the Banner man of the Starks.



Harrold Hardying Lord of the Vale to Sansa Stark- I think Littlefinger does kill little Robin and Harrold Hardying becomes Lord of the Vale and marries him to Sansa. I have a feeling Sansa will not like Harrold and he will be somewhat like King Robert, a drunken player. Now I do not think this will last long since Littlefinger wants Sansa for himself along with the Vale, Riverlands and the North. He will slip up and tell Sansa his plan to kill Harrold, Sansa will turn the tables on Little Finger. She will allow him to kill Harrold but stop him from push off the murder on someone else. Little Finger will die, likely beheaded and Sansa will be Lady of the Vale along with Lady of Winterfell.



King Aegon Targaryen to either Sansa Stark or Arianne Martell- here I am somewhat on the fence, I believe that once word of Dany’s “Death” in the fighting pits when her dragon took her away that Aegon will marry either Sansa Stark or Arianne Martell. Part of me says that Arianne would marry him to confirm the alliance between Dorne and the Stormland controlled by the Golden Company however that alliance is already confirmed by family since they would be cousins and a better marrage may be open with Sansa Stark. I could easily see Sansa marrying Aegon either with little finger’s pushing if he is still alive or maybe on her own as a player in the game of thrones. Aegon would want to marry her since she would likely bring the Vale which had been untouched by war and the North to his side. If they get married before Kings Landing finds out Jon being named king in the north they may think she has total control over the North at the least she will have strong family links to the North. Also with strong ties to the Riverland through her mother, she would pretty much bring three kingdoms to his banner. Leaving only the Reach which will likely be in a civil war since I believe Randly Tarly and other smaller lords are going to allies with Aegon/Golden Company/Dorne against the Tryells and the Westerlands under a House Lannister with no real leadership.



Marriages I think will NOT Happen



Dany to any of the Greyjoys or anyone else for that matter-I think the horn will summon the dragons to the Greyjoys but they will not be able to control them and in the end, Victarion will burn from Dragon Flames. As for the Crow’s Eyes he will likely live until A Dream of Summer but he will burn as well. As for what will happen to her current husband Hizdahr, he will likely die either at Dany’s hand or in a failed attempt to bust out of prison.



Now what do you think? Who do you think will get married to who in the next book?


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Jon's not getting married in TWoW.



Sansa's not marrying Harry the Heir. Littlefinger has already said he's going to have her show up at the wedding as Sansa Stark. That will stop the whole thing. Sansa Stark is married. She can't get married to someone else until her marriage to Tyrion is annulled, and that won't be safe to do until Cersei's been removed, or Sansa's innocence has been proven by a Trial of Seven. If there is a ToS, Harry will likely fight for her and be killed. She could end up married to Aegon.



Don't know about Dany but she kind of has a husband for the moment.


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I ship Jon and Val but after Ygritte and so many other things, I don't see Val sticking around long. I'd like her and Jon to be together though



The possible dragon king (assuming R&L=J) with a strong Northern connection welcoming the Wildlings into Westeros and marrying the Wildling princess has a romantic sound to it




Aegon from what we've seen is a heroic person with integrity. I'd be fine with him being the lucky guy to marry Sansa though my interest lies in Sansa and Sandor being together







Jon's not getting married in TWoW.



Sansa's not marrying Harry the Heir. Littlefinger has already said he's going to have her show up at the wedding as Sansa Stark. That will stop the whole thing. Sansa Stark is married. She can't get married to someone else until her marriage to Tyrion is annulled, and that won't be safe to do until Cersei's been removed, or Sansa's innocence has been proven by a Trial of Seven. If there is a ToS, Harry will likely fight for her and be killed. She could end up married to Aegon.



Don't know about Dany but she kind of has a husband for the moment.




Littlefinger HAS to know all this though. Does he want Sansa to go to court? She'd likely need a champion..... Sandor.....


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Neither Jon nor Sansa are getting legally married in TWoW. Maybe Jon and Val hook up, but they'll do no such thing as marry. And maybe Sansa is forced to marry Harry the Heir, but that marriage will not be legal in the sight of Gods or men.



I could see Aegon & Arianne marrying. And it's not a Westeros wedding penned by GRRM unless it's bloody... Blue Wedding, anyone? (Since winter is here?)


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Littlefinger HAS to know all this though. Does he want Sansa to go to court? She'd likely need a champion..... Sandor.....

Of course he knows. That's his plan. I think he knows about Aegon and intends for her to wed him. Then he plans to get rid of Aegon as soon as Sansa has a son. He'll rule through her while the kid grows up, be a major influence in Prince Sansa's life, and thus influence two generations of the crown. He may also be thinking of marrying Sansa, having little Baelishes, convincing King Sansa to name his half-siblings as heirs, and then bumping him off too. I'm not saying this will work, mind you, just that I think that's what LF is aiming for.

Now in theory, either Sansa can win a trial due to LF's connections, or she'll have the trial of seven we all seem convinced we'll have in the story for someone, or...Aegon will have conquered KL, and she'll be able to go to him and plead for help. What could be more appealing than a beautiful girl who needs big, strong, King Aegon to save her? Especially when that girl might be able to serve up the North, Vale, and Riverlands on a platter. Heck, even people who don't care what her father's name was will feel sympathy for the girl who was almost married to Joffrey, and was actually married to Tyrion.

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Of course he knows. That's his plan. I think he knows about Aegon and intends for her to wed him. Then he plans to get rid of Aegon as soon as Sansa has a son. He'll rule through her while the kid grows up, be a major influence in Prince Sansa's life, and thus influence two generations of the crown. He may also be thinking of marrying Sansa, having little Baelishes, convincing King Sansa to name his half-siblings as heirs, and then bumping him off too. I'm not saying this will work, mind you, just that I think that's what LF is aiming for.

Now in theory, either Sansa can win a trial due to LF's connections, or she'll have the trial of seven we all seem convinced we'll have in the story for someone, or...Aegon will have conquered KL, and she'll be able to go to him and plead for help. What could be more appealing than a beautiful girl who needs big, strong, King Aegon to save her? Especially when that girl might be able to serve up the North, Vale, and Riverlands on a platter. Heck, even people who don't care what her father's name was will feel sympathy for the girl who was almost married to Joffrey, and was actually married to Tyrion.

Really good possibilities. I could see a lot of this happening

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Daven Lannister is set to marry a Frey


Dickon Tarly is meant to marry William Mooton's daughter


Rollam Westerling is betrothed to Joy Hill


One of the Tyrell cousins is betrothed to Alyn Ambrose


Myrcella could marry Trystane


Raymun Redbeard's 3 daughters are betrothed 3 of Stannis' knights


Sansa is supposed to marry Harrold Hardying.



Could be any of these, I'd say the first one being the Red Wedding II


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Aegon will kidnap Sansa much like his dad did when Sansa's aunt was going to marry a womanizing lord of great power

I don't think he'll need to. LF will practically serve her to him on a silver platter.

But I could see Aegon marrying the Northern lord's daughter who's a proper lady and perfect political match, but then falling head over heels for the wild and untamed Dornish girl named Elia. It's Rhaegar in reverse.

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I don't think he'll need to. LF will practically serve her to him on a silver platter.

But I could see Aegon marrying the Northern lord's daughter who's a proper lady and perfect political match, but then falling head over heels for the wild and untamed Dornish girl named Elia. It's Rhaegar in reverse.

you just up'd the game, what if he fell in love with Arya. (drops mic)

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Neither Jon nor Sansa are getting legally married in TWoW. Maybe Jon and Val hook up, but they'll do no such thing as marry. And maybe Sansa is forced to marry Harry the Heir, but that marriage will not be legal in the sight of Gods or men.

I could see Aegon & Arianne marrying. And it's not a Westeros wedding penned by GRRM unless it's bloody... Blue Wedding, anyone? (Since winter is here?)

And the wedding of Tyrion and Sansa is the exception that confirms the rule. ;)

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I do not think Baelish will really let Sansa become Harry's wife. First of all, he said betrothed. Second of all, I doubt he'll ever willingly let Sansa go to any other man.







And the wedding of Tyrion and Sansa is the exception that confirms the rule. ;)






The king merely threatened to rape the bride, and the groom merely threatened to lop the king's dick off. By Dothraki standards, a dull affair.

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Daven Lannister is set to marry a Frey

Dickon Tarly is meant to marry William Mooton's daughter

Rollam Westerling is betrothed to Joy Hill

One of the Tyrell cousins is betrothed to Alyn Ambrose

Myrcella could marry Trystane

Raymun Redbeard's 3 daughters are betrothed 3 of Stannis' knights

Sansa is supposed to marry Harrold Hardying.

Could be any of these, I'd say the first one being the Red Wedding II

I think I like Daven. I sincerely hope that he's the one killing Freys and not the other way around. Because screw those guys.

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All Sansa has to do is have a Septa probe her, declare the marriage unconsummated, and set aside. A maester might even suffice.

Nope. Sansa or Tyrion have to ask the High Septon or a Council of the Faith (whatever that is) for an annulment on the grounds of non consummation.

Also, Cersei ponders how highborn ladies often have their hymen broken by horse riding. And while Sansa doesn't like riding horses, that doesn't mean she didn't ride horses a lot. Say, from Winterfell to King's Landing, for example, so a septa might find it broken. But, since the non consummation was common knowledge, I guess it would boil down to politics: Sansa or Tyrion give something to the Faith (say, permission to let the Faith Militant into their lands. Myranda Royce will be rejoiced!) in exchange for the annulment. Assuming, of course, that either Sansa or Tyrion can walk into the Sept of Baelor

The king merely threatened to rape the bride, and the groom merely threatened to lop the king's dick off. By Dothraki standards, a dull affair.

:lol:

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