shardofNarsil Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 She was Arthur Dayne´s sister , who was close to Rhaegar , daughter to a lord and very beautiful. If Aerys was gonna marry Rhaegar to some Volantene lord´s daughter then why not a westerosi lord´ daughter as House Dayne is an ancient house and Dayne´s also have valyrian features . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 She was Arthur Dayne´s sister , who was close to Rhaegar , daughter to a lord and very beautiful. If Aerys was gonna marry Rhaegar to some Volantene lord´s daughter then why not a westerosi lord´ daughter as House Dayne is an ancient house and Dayne´s also have valyrian features .Prestige. Old house, but not particularly powerful one. Dynastic marriages are to either preserve bloodline (Targs) or secure powerful support by having them have a vested interest in supporting continuation of dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearQueen87 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Politically speaking, it might not be the best match. The Daynes are a very old family but they aren't one of the "big" ones--they are sworn to another house (Martell). His other choice was a Lannister, and he ends up marrying a Martell so Aerys was obviously going to for the more important houses. I also think there is a question of mutual attraction. Rhaegar never seemed to pay Ashara any attention and Valyrian looks don't seem to have been a priority for him either--neither Elia nor Lyanna had them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creticus Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 She was Arthur Dayne´s sister , who was close to Rhaegar , daughter to a lord and very beautiful. If Aerys was gonna marry Rhaegar to some Volantene lord´s daughter then why not a westerosi lord´ daughter as House Dayne is an ancient house and Dayne´s also have valyrian features . I'm guessing that it's because the Daynes are neither as powerful nor as prestigious as the Martells. Plus, the Martells have Targaryen blood, which might've been important for Aerys. Speaking of which, do we know what kind of bride Steffon was searching for in Essos? Did the Targaryens of the time suspect the existence of female Blackfyres? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Politically speaking, it might not be the best match. The Daynes are a very old family but they aren't one of the "big" ones--they are sworn to another house (Martell). His other choice was a Lannister, and he ends up marrying a Martell so Aerys was obviously going to for the more important houses. I also think there is a question of mutual attraction. Rhaegar never seemed to pay Ashara any attention and Valyrian looks don't seem to have been a priority for him either--neither Elia nor Lyanna had them.I don't think attraction has much to do with it, so long as it's not preclusive. I doubt Rhaegar was consulted much, or at all. Certainly Aerys hadn't been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearQueen87 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I don't think attraction has much to do with it, so long as it's not preclusive. I doubt Rhaegar was consulted much, or at all. Certainly Aerys hadn't been. True, but the OP mentioned Ashara's beauty as part of the "why" Rhaegar should have married Ashara. I don't think looks played into who Rhaegar's future bride was at all: Elia was lovely but not regarded as a "great beauty." She just came from the right family and it was another way to stick it to Tywin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Wouldn't that make the martell's mad? they have this perfectly good match elia for rhaegar and he choses a girl from one of their bannermen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Wouldn't that make the martell's mad? they have this perfectly good match elia for rhaegar and he choses a girl from one of their bannermen. Targaryens also married to Hightowers, so it is not like they only married to Great Houses. She was Arthur Dayne´s sister , who was close to Rhaegar , daughter to a lord and very beautiful. If Aerys was gonna marry Rhaegar to some Volantene lord´s daughter then why not a westerosi lord´ daughter as House Dayne is an ancient house and Dayne´s also have valyrian features . Daynes have Valyrian features but not Valyrian blood (they are First Men) which was a condition for Aerys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Targaryens also married to Hightowers, so it is not like they only married to Great Houses. Daynes have Valyrian features but not Valyrian blood (they are First Men) which was a condition for Aerys.Hghtowers are essentially Great in all but name, and probably greater (small g) than a few GHs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Targaryens also married to Hightowers, so it is not like they only married to Great Houses. But did the tyrells of the time have a perfectlly good match for the targareyens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Hghtowers are essentially Great in all but name, and probably greater (small g) than a few GHs. True, but we also have Westerling that married with Targaryens... But did the tyrells of the time have a perfectlly good match for the targareyens? We don't know that, but it is not that Martells would be infuriated with not marrying with Elia. That being said, everyone would be infuriated with everyone if we would look at it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl18 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think the fact that the Martells are descended from a Targ princess played a part in choosing Elia over someone else. There wasn't a sister for him to marry, so they chose the next best thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRANDON GREYSTARK Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (REASONS) Aerys was insane .The Daynes may not be firmly Targaryen loyalist as we assumed . Just because Arthur and Rhaegar were close friends doesn't mean Arthur loved Aerys . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joluoto2 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 There's a theory Aerys wanted Rhaegar to marry a woman with Valyrian blood, which is why the Volantese was an option. And why he settled for Elia Martel, since the Martels have Targaryen blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 House Dayne wasn't powerful enough to marry a member of the House Targaryen. Also, Dorne was already a strong ally of KL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I feel like people think the daynes as stronger than they actually are, even in dorne they are 4th or 3rd in house strengthMaybe they are old, but not nearly as strong as the martells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oursisthefury69 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Targaryens also married to Hightowers, so it is not like they only married to Great Houses. These are the same Hightowers that preside over one of if not the biggest city in the continent, not particularly comprable to he Daynes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Valyrian features (if they are Valyrian ;) ) =/= Valyrian blood. As far as we know Aerys was looking for Valyrian blood and Elia had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Why should he? Politically, they are third tier at best. Valyrian ancestors they haven't. True love? That's the only remaining reason.. I also think there is a question of mutual attraction. Rhaegar never seemed to pay Ashara any attention and Valyrian looks don't seem to have been a priority for him either--neither Elia nor Lyanna had them.Nor Ashara. She was dark-haired. True, but we also have Westerling that married with Targaryens...That's 270 years in the past, Maegor had 16 wives and executed some of them. Top tier brides were a bit scarce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 and there is also the deal that ashara actually had black hair, the only valyrian feature she had were purple eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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