The Black Adder of Dorne Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 From the books there's Durrendon -> Baratheon, Stark -> Karstark and Gardener -> Florent and Tyrell. I've been trying to find more by looking through sigils. Apologies if this thread has been done many times before. Some are obvious from looking at sigils, like Baratheon/Durrendon -> Wensington and Bolling (bastard), Gardener -> Chester, Uffering, and Oldflowers (bastard), but are there any others? Perhaps the Mootons are related to the Tullys as both have a fish, or Baratheon/Durrendon to Buckwell or Harte due to the stag connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Well obviously Targaryen->Blackfyre Oakheart and Rowan also claim descendant from the Gardeners Starks also led to the Greystarks, who have since been extinguished. There's a possible connection between House Reyne and Vikary, based on sigils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The OP confuses me, are you suggesting that somehow the Gardeners were descendants of the Baratheons? Because that literally can't be. Its possible they descended from the Durendons, but that seems impractical as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Flint of the mountains->Flint of Widow's Watch and Flint of Flint's Finger, at least that's what the mountain clan Flints claim.Dayne->Dayne of High Hermitage obviously.Possibly Targaryen->Baratheon. Greyiron->Greyjoy(I think, not sure about this one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Dayne-> Jordayne(I remember a qoute from Ran) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Adder of Dorne Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 The OP confuses me, are you suggesting that somehow the Gardeners were descendants of the Baratheons? Because that literally can't be. Its possible they descended from the Durendons, but that seems impractical as well. I didn't suggest anything like that. Merely that it's likely the Baratheons have Houses Bolling and Wensington descended from them based on sigils. Similar evidence shows Chester, Uffering and Oldflowers descended from the Gardeners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTyrion Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I didn't suggest anything like that. Merely that it's likely the Baratheons have Houses Bolling and Wensington descended from them based on sigils. Similar evidence shows Chester, Uffering and Oldflowers descended from the Gardeners. Do similar sigils imply descent though? They could just as easily reflect a shared culture or simple imitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Adder of Dorne Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Do similar sigils imply descent though? They could just as easily reflect a shared culture or simple imitation. I suppose it is possible, though I doubt any house would like a group of unrelated people to rip off their sigil. Remember that Garlan created a sigil for his new house with two Tyrell roses and the same logic would suggest that Wensington's three stags come from a third son of a Durrendon/Baratheon. But not definite I guess. Reversing colours and putting a red bend sinister have obvious bastard connotations though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thaeglei of Frostpyre Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Targaryen -- Blackfyre, BaratheonStark -- Greystark and KarstarkGardener -- Florent, Rowan Oakheart, and TyrellLannister -- Lannister of LannisportDurrendon -- BaratheonArryn -- Arryn of GulltownRoyce -- Royce of the Gates of the MoonDayne -- Dayne of High HermitageFlint of the Mountains -- Flint of Widow's Watch and Flint of Flint's FingersVelaryon -- LongwatersKarstark -- Thenn (future heirs)Harlaw -- Harlaw of Grey Garden, Harlaw of Harlaw Hall, Harlaw of Harridan Hill and Harlaw of the Tower of Glimmering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krugal Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Fossoway -- Green apple Fossoway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the storm king returns Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 House Plumm are rumored to be decedent of Targaryans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CassBlackfyre Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Tyrell > Tyrell of brightwater I think Tyrion mentions theres a whole bunch of cadete branches of house Lannister, Lannas, Lannisports, whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makrell Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 House frey > house frey of riverrunHouse lannister > house lannister of darry. We se these connections be made just within the story. IMO this has happened tons of times before, with a "halfnew" house taking up the mantle of an old one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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