Poppa Chase Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Who do you think saved Cat and Bran from the assassin? Was it summer acting under wolf protective instincts? Was it comatose Bran having a wolf dream? Or was it the messenger Bloodraven ripping the throat out of the man who would have ruined his plan?I'm sure the text will never answer it but let's speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Cold Fingers Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The connection between direwolf & Stark. Each of the Stark children have a solid connection with their direwolf...there maybe some warging connection that strengthens this...but I don't think BR had much to do with it...or he has everything to do with it...or not...HODOR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the Rock Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 It's not brought up in the books because it's simply Summer. Maybe you can speculate that BR had a hand in the Stark's finding the direwolves to protect Bran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forelver Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I had thought it was because of Summer and Bran's extremely strong connection-that Summer was able to sense that Bran was in danger. The other options are interesting too though, I hadn't thought of any other reason before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Well, if Cat had not been there Summer would not have gotten there in time, so it's a little of both I guess. Bloodraven not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 My first thought when I read it (after having been spoiled by the show and wiki) was that Bloodraven sent the mother wolf and killed her on a stag. Then he protected them via the pups until their warg ability took over. Meaning that he killed that guy as summer and then forced bran to wake up to protect himself and come to him. Also the wolf was barking the entire time Bran was climbing before he was injured. I think that was Bloodraven trying to warn him.But after reading all the books, I feel like Bran did it. Arya wargs into Nymeria for important events, rescuing cat, killing the bloody mummers that chased her. I think that bran did this in a coma, and like the events before the fall, he can't remember doing it. Plus at the time he wouldn't have known what it meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolorous22 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 It's a good shout.I'm happy that Summer did exactly what a protector is suppose to do and saved them on its own volition. It's almost the whole point in the Starks having Direwolves. Whether BR sent them, controls them or prompted the wolf to rescue them is kind of by-the-by really. In fact, it's very likely that the mother was sent to WF so the Stark kids had some kind of protection from the plotting and scheming of Southren 'players'. Personally, I'd prefer it if that was the extent of BRs involvement regarding the wolves. Otherwise, we'll end up with more plot holes than we can manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTSTARK Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 i always thought it had been Bran warged into summer. since he was in a coma state, Bran couldve heard the struggle between the guy and Catelyn so he came and protected himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northbound3.0 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 It's entirely possible that it was BL and he and Summer got there a tad bit late. We have seen the Wolves get hostile toward people, who they perceive to be threats to the Stark kids. Greywind certainly tried to warn Robb, when they showed up at the Twins. Both instances could have been BL or it may just be the wolves natural instincts and they are not you're typical Direwolves. Either way and in Bran's scene; had it not been for Cat also, he would be dead. So let's give her some credit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 This was before Bran had his third eye opened by the crow so at this point he was not warging into anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodmane Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 BR pre-warging the pups for the Stark children... nice idea. No evidence for it although... at laest none I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northbound3.0 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 This was before Bran had his third eye opened by the crow so at this point he was not warging into anything.Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A spoon of knife and fork Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Thanks for the post OP - it's a cool thought that BR did it, actually.Still, I prefer that it was Summer - Bran's chapters are all About how he and summers connection is so strong. So, having BR warg him takes a bit away from That IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 This was before Bran had his third eye opened by the crow so at this point he was not warging into anything.If you're having a nightmare where you are a wolf and your mother is being attacked by a man, you rip the man's throat out. I don't remember Bloodraven opening Arya's third eye, but she killed some sell swords and saved her mother's corpse. While he was in a coma, he was probably in summer the entire time. Imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodmane Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I think that the third eye serves the "flying" (green-sight?), not the warging part. For Starks warging is part of family traditions, is more like an instict, BR teaches Bran something else, more powerfull, darker. The opening of the third eye led Bran to see the world far and wide, to glimpse at the storm gathering before his mother, to spy the dragons stirring in the east, to stare at whatever it is far in the North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis's birthright Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 If someone else Warged Summer wouldn't Bran be able to detect that ? I thought that was implied . Either way Summer was doing what comes natural in a pack . Defending its members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Ok so his third eye opening didn't "awaken" his warging ability. Still nothing anywhere to indicate it was Bran other than reader inference based on what they want to have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faydra Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Bran bounding with Summer in the past days and BR probably warging a stag to kill the direwolf morther obviously played a great role in Bran's survival, but these are not direct causes. Summer and Catelyn saved him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Am TheSongOf IceAndFire Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 a great question. personally i think just bran-summer connection, but i could see BR revealing some influence on them, although im sure he would have/has revealed that to bran by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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