Littlefingers In The Air Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Valentines Day of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I like the idea of Halloween. Back in the day I would have jumped at any excuse to kit up in some sort of costume. I do remember one occasion when our folks decided that we should have a crack at apple dunking. All we succeeded in doing was getting wet and eating apples. But it is starting to catch on and the trickle of younguns coming by for some sort of candy is growing each year. Maybe next year I will greet them as a wight. :devil: OT: I don't particularly care whether it was historically evil or historically good or even religious - as traditions evolve anyway I don't mind how Halloween has evolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkess Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I was raised like that. Halloween was celebrating the occult (bad!) and glorifying the devil (super bad!). When I was very young I remember that we would carve pumpkins, but even that stopped as my parents worried it was too close to the line of celebrating Halloween. We would turn off all our lights, put a sign on our door, and still get the occasional trick-or-treater, who then had the pleasure of getting yelled at by my dad. When I was in 8th grade I sneakily went trick-or-treating with some friends. It was mind-boggling to me how....normal it was. I didn't get struck down! Anyway, I'm an atheist now, but Halloween is just meh to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Fool Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 It's a holiday. I work holidays. Therefore, yes, it's evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 It's a not time-and-a-half holiday. I work holidays. Therefore, yes, it's evil.FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Christmas is hugely paganistic. For quite a while Christians actually campaigned against it. Not to mention what they did to Easter. Take a perfectly good pagan holiday about fertility and spring, and stick it with some ghoulish story about torture, execution, and grave robbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seli Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Of course it is evil. What else can a cultural imperialist thing from the USA be? At least it is far enough away in the year from the proper dress up festival that is carnival. Although it might sadly be competing with local walk-around-with-lantern-to-collect-treats festivals such as saint Martin's day (11/11).:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Fool Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 FIFY Even if it was. My time-and-a-half rate would be almost livable. Almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo498 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 If it's evil it's in it's hyper-consumerist glorification of capitalism, the same as basically all the holidays now. Nothing to do with the devil :P Mammon is some kind of devil... When I grew up in the 70s/80s there was not Halloween in Germany. I do not remember when but it must have been introduced in the mid- or late 90s. Of course it was embraced by the industry, always happy to have another hyper-consumerist thing. So I dislike it not for being American or so, but for having been forced on us despite having no real tradition at all. (For smaller children we had/have St Martin's Day on Nov 11th (EDIT!), but there was no trick/treat, basically a procession with paper lanterns, often someone dressed up as St Martin on a horse, singing and a fire with some snacks afterwards.) I am also enough of an old grouch to dislike being disturbed several times during an evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 We may have talked about this last year, because every Halloween some self-righteous religious community somewhere wants to ban Halloween because of it's associations with the devil. Or something. I'm just throwing the question out again because, once again, I'll be on my doorstep tomorrow night handing out candy to any munchkin that comes along (and some that are too old to go trick or treating imo) while my brother and sister-in-law go out to dinner for a couple of hours so they don't have to, and then when they return shut off all the lights in the house and pull the curtains shut to sit and watch television. I'll have a pumpkin on the doorstep and lots of candles in jars and owl shaped tea light holders in the windows of the porch. I don't think my brother has a problem with it, but my sister-in-law is a Catholic from some medieval period, I think, and when I asked her about Halloween the other day she got so angry and incoherent I dropped the topic so she wouldn't get apoplectic. What's your opinion? We don't celebrate Halloween in Serbia, but it has always seemed to me as the one "American" holiday we should try to adopt. It just seems fun! I mean, what bad can come out of kids going around the neighbourhood wearing funny and cute costumes and getting candy? Let's not forget that even adults get a perfect excuse to wear silly costumes. :) The only thing I mind about it is the pressure to do all that if you're not in the mood for it but that goes for all holidays known to man. Being against something like that because it doesn't fit with your very narrow view of your narrow religion is moronic, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet199 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Is Halloween evil? Yes, of course, that's why it's so great. Seriously though Halloween was a lot worse before it was commercialised. People actually got tricks rather than just giving treats and, kids being kids, many were pretty horrible, Lord-of-the-Flies-esk. Halloween is a British agricultural festival which didn't survive in the cities. Many English town dwellers will swear it is an American import even though in the countryside people fondly remember carving turnips in their childhood (and then going out with their gang, once it got dark, to set fire to someone's house). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted01 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The only evil thing about it is when people scare the shit out of me. I took my brother and sister trick-or-treating about 8 years ago, and some guy was hiding in a coffin in his front garden. I think I actually pooped myself. Oh and kids. Rotten kids, knocking on my door, get off my lawn, grumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filippa Eilhart Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Of course it's evil. you should celebrate Holy wins instead. (Polish link but the pictures give you the idea). btw Hello Kitty is evil too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddington Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Bonfire night was always the bigger event when I was a child. The cubs used to have a halloween fancy dress party with bobbing for apples, but bonfire night we would have a bigger village fire and fireworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckwheat Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Of course it is evil, it overshadows the Reformation Day. :P So happy Reformation, everybody! We don't celebrate Halloween in Serbia, but it has always seemed to me as the one "American" holiday we should try to adopt.It just seems fun! I mean, what bad can come out of kids going around the neighbourhood wearing funny and cute costumes and getting candy?Let's not forget that even adults get a perfect excuse to wear silly costumes. :)Do you not do that on Carnival, which is, as has been mentioned above, the "correct" holiday to do those things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Do you not do that on Carnival, which is, as has been mentioned above, the "correct" holiday to do those things? No. That's not a thing in Serbia either. From what I gather, Carnivals are mainly a Catholic thing and I can't think of an Orthodox Christian nation that celebrates it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zar Lannister Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I don't think my brother has a problem with it, but my sister-in-law is a Catholic from some medieval period, I think, and when I asked her about Halloween the other day she got so angry and incoherent I dropped the topic so she wouldn't get apoplectic. :dunno: In Catholic Liturgy, Hallow's Eve precedes All Souls Day. And we even owe two Popes (Gregory III and IV) the name of the Holiday? Regardless, as a catholic myself, the other catholics I know are all over the place regarding the holiday. I've seen an article attached to Pope Benedict condemning the holiday which according to this source was something he never said. Every now and then an article pops up saying a Branch of the Church condemns it. My father is at seven am mass every morning and Halloween is his favorite holiday. If he doesn't think it is evil it probably isn't. ^ This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Yeah, it's no more evil than Easter and Christmas, also both pagan festivals hijacked by Christian celebrations. Though people are a lot less aware of the Christian relevance here, especially if they're not Christian themselves. It's a lot less cool than The Day of the Dead though and I'd much rather the world did that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straits Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 We don't celebrate Halloween in Serbia, but it has always seemed to me as the one "American" holiday we should try to adopt. It just seems fun! I mean, what bad can come out of kids going around the neighbourhood wearing funny and cute costumes and getting candy? Let's not forget that even adults get a perfect excuse to wear silly costumes. :) The only thing I mind about it is the pressure to do all that if you're not in the mood for it but that goes for all holidays known to man. Being against something like that because it doesn't fit with your very narrow view of your narrow religion is moronic, to say the least. It isn't celebrated by children and families, but it's still a massive excuse to throw parties for young adults in Belgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lany Freelove Cassandra Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I love halloween! Who cares if it is evil, it is fun. Not only do kids dress up, but adults can act like kids and dress up too :D I love dressing up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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