Wise Mans Fear- Malfeasance in the Eld (spoilers)

[Lord.Snow]

Ok so,

Why is it that when Kvothe goes into the Eld with his mersonary companions under the Maer's contract and ends up using Voody sympathy killing like 10+ people and then lighting bolt sympathy ! 17more blown to pieces.

How come he is not worried about the university finding out about this ?

They repeatedly stress how

no arcanist has been burned in a 200 years.

the penalty for malfeasance is death,

Its extreamly prohibited at the university.

And yet Kvothe never really double thinks it as being a problem,
I'm not saying it wasnt awsome, just that i thought for sure they would hear about this bloodlusting red haired sympathist killing 30+people while chasing the wind.

Also, who knew that was even possible

way better then ambrose's lame attempts at Malfeasance

Martin, May i use your dead ?

[TallTyrion]

assuming this is in the wrong section

[TheHouseHB]

How do you know that this will not come back to haunt Kvothe at a later time? Isn't it on one of the book descriptions that Kvothe was eventually expelled from the university?

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

Lord Snow,

That or his ever so subtle effort to make money off the Maer's promise to pay for his Education will get him thrown out of the University.

[Seiche]

Regarding Kvothe's expulsion (still to pass or already having happened), there was an interesting discussion back here.

[sologdin]

he probably gets expelled for gumping his way into the professors' spouses' boudoirs wherein he demonstrates orgy-faerie skillz.

[Nabarg]

But I think the point was not whether there was consequenses, but rather the odd fact that Kvothe doesnt seem to think about them.

[Slick Mongoose]

Well very few poeple know the truth.

[unJon]

Well very few poeple know the truth.

You can't handle the truth!

[Sword Of Mid Afternoon]

Unless Kvothe confesses what he did...I don't think he has too much to worry about in so far as an account of his malfeasance during 'the battle of the eld' is concerned.

Martin more or less swore he'd never speak of it out of fear, Tempe is not like to pass along his account any further than he already has (to Sheyn) and he has seemingly came to terms with it both professionally and personally. Dedan and Hespe were on the other side of the camp and only witnessed the carnage after the fact & then received Marten's brief account.

I am of the opinion that Kvothes expulsion will have to come from some new event.

I predict one of two things shall trigger the expulsion:

At some point the Ambrose feud will result in the death or severe injury of some third party;

OR

Kvothe will find himself in an unexpected emergency life-or-death situation at the University and will use sympathy in an illegal manner, after which the Masters will be obliged to expel him.

[Tears of Lys]

Kvothe's not a nice guy, as much as his friends seem to like him.

He's a talented, charming, dangerous bastard who occasionally does nice things.

[Sword Of Mid Afternoon]

Ugh. If you're a bandit in the Eld that Kvothe has been charged by the Maer to kill by any means necessary, or if you're a band of murdering rapists posing as Ruh, no, you probably won't think Kvothe is a nice guy. If, however, you are a real troupe down on your luck desperate for a half penny who have a chance meeting with Kvothe on the road or one of the girls being raped by the aforementioned false troupe, your opinion may be very much otherwise.

[Proudfeet]

I think that with regards to expulsion from the University, it would probably be an issue with Ambrose. If this was found out, the University wouldn't be looking to just expel him, they would probably try to lock him up like they did to Elodin at the very least.

As to why Kvothe doesn't seem to think of it, it may be just that it it slipped his mind after what happened with Felurian, the Adem and Alveron or that he just didn't have the opportunity to bring it up. If something related happens, he might add that he had been worrying about it ever so often, and it wouldn't fit his narrative to just add a "by the way, I'm concerned about what happened being exposed" when it has no relevance to what is currently happening in the story.

Every time the topic of malfeasance comes up, I get curious about what you can do with sympathy to cause harm. I think the possibilitie are endless against people without a gram, especially for arcanists like Kvothe and Devi with particularly strong alar.

[Sword Of Mid Afternoon]

That has always bothered me... it seems like it would be next to impossible to stop a renegade arcanist(save by another equally capable arcanist), and with the # arcanists out there you are bound to have some go down that path, if only out of desperation.

. Caudicus could have just boiled the Maer alive and no one would've realized it was murder.

Such people are exceedingly dangerous. I'm surprised there aren't more arcane assasins out there.

Thinking about that makes me wonder about caudicus's motives... he clearly didn't want to kill the Maer.... just keep him weak. Like Kvothe says...it would be easy to kill him with lead poisoning. Keeping him barely alive is rather challenging . Strange.

[Sword Of Mid Afternoon]

Arcanists would make for exceptional assassins. Get within a mile of a person, build a fire, get some link...even a very weak one would suffice, and bam. Boiling blood. Doubtless this occurred to mr. Kvothe in the pursuit of some dastardly king.

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

I'm confident, if not convinced, that Caudicus was Amyr acting "for the greater good" to take out a lord, quietly, who he saw as harming people.

[Ninefingers]

That has always bothered me... it seems like it would be next to impossible to stop a renegade arcanist(save by another equally capable arcanist), and with the # arcanists out there you are bound to have some go down that path, if only out of desperation.

. Caudicus could have just boiled the Maer alive and no one would've realized it was murder.

Such people are exceedingly dangerous. I'm surprised there aren't more arcane assasins out there.

Thinking about that makes me wonder about caudicus's motives... he clearly didn't want to kill the Maer.... just keep him weak. Like Kvothe says...it would be easy to kill him with lead poisoning. Keeping him barely alive is rather challenging . Strange.

What has always bothered me:

Why didn't the Chronicler help Kvothe in the frame story when he was getting the crap kicked out of him?

Chronicler is not just your garden variety university student, he knows the name of iron (which, according to Elodin is more than 1 student in 1000 achieves).

Should have been really simple for him to calm that situation down.

[Tears of Lys]

What has always bothered me:

Why didn't the Chronicler help Kvothe in the frame story when he was getting the crap kicked out of him?

Chronicler is not just your garden variety university student, he knows the name of iron (which, according to Elodin is more than 1 student in 1000 achieves).

Should have been really simple for him to calm that situation down.

I get the impression Chronicler is a milquetoast type of fellow who stays far away from any nasty situations like that. Plus, he may have honestly thought Kvothe would finally turn the situation around, and by the time it was quite evident that it wasn't going to happen, it was over. :dunno:

[Ninefingers]

I get the impression Chronicler is a milquetoast type of fellow who stays far away from any nasty situations like that. Plus, he may have honestly thought Kvothe would finally turn the situation around, and by the time it was quite evident that it wasn't going to happen, it was over. :dunno:

Perhaps, but given his skills intervening would be as simple as whistling dixie, and BTW he didn't hesitate to whip out the naming when faced with something much scarier (Bast).

I think (a)either he affirmatively chose to let Kvothe get hurt, (b ) it's an error by Rothfuss*.

*My suspicion is that in early drafts he didn't have naming skill, but Rothfuss added it for the Bast conflict scene without fully considering the downstream effects of the Chronicler having that much power.

[Howdyphillip]

Ugh. If you're a bandit in the Eld that Kvothe has been charged by the Maer to kill by any means necessary, or if you're a band of murdering rapists posing as Ruh, no, you probably won't think Kvothe is a nice guy. If, however, you are a real troupe down on your luck desperate for a half penny who have a chance meeting with Kvothe on the road or one of the girls being raped by the aforementioned false troupe, your opinion may be very much otherwise.

That would make a modicum of sense if that was the narrative of the story. As it was written though, Kvothe had already poisoned the group before he ever found out anything about kidnap or rape.

In essence, he passed a death sentence on a group of people for impersonating the Ruh.