The Vinyl Jon Snow Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Anybody heard of this theory? I thought I remember it being discussed awhile back but I can't seem to find it anywhere on the forums. Might take a look at my books and bring some relevent quotes that prove it later tonight. If anybody else thinks this might be true feel free to post evidence in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_faceless_dude Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Everyone is a faceless man. In the last chapter there will be the big reveal where they all go 'Sayeth whaaat? You're FM to?', followed by the reveal that all FM are secret Targaryens. No, seriously: Not buying this, not for a second... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vinyl Jon Snow Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Everyone is a faceless man. In the last chapter there will be the big reveal where they all go 'Sayeth whaaat? You're FM to?', followed by the reveal that all FM are secret Targaryens. No, seriously: Not buying this, not for a second... There is actually quite a bit of textual evidence that supports this. Going to post it whenever I get some free time. But his connection to Arya is the most important thing to examine. You have to remember that the first novel came out in 1996. In Arya's very first chapter we are introduced to Sandor Clegane in the following way " Ser Rodrik tugged thoughtfully at his white whiskers. What are you suggesting? he asked the prince. Live steel. Done, Robb shouted back. You'll be sorry! The master-at-arms put a hand on Robb's shoulder to quiet him Live steel is too dangerous. I will permit you tourney swords, with blunted edges. Joffrey said nothing, but a man strange to Arya, a tall knight with black hair and burn scars on his face, pushed forward in front of the prince. This is your prince. Who are you to tell him he may not have an edge on his sword, ser?" He is described as " a man strange to Arya". Hello the Stranger? He even names his horse this. And of course anybody whom has read AFFC knows that " The Stranger" is the god she prays to. Foreshadowing is key when looking at GRRM long games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptyhands Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 There is actually quite a bit of textual evidence that supports this. Going to post it whenever I get some free time. But his connection to Arya is the most important thing to examine. You have to remember that the first novel came out in 1996. In Arya's very first chapter we are introduced to Sandor Clegane in the following way " Ser Rodrik tugged thoughtfully at his white whiskers. What are you suggesting? he asked the prince. Live steel. Done, Robb shouted back. You'll be sorry! The master-at-arms put a hand on Robb's shoulder to quiet him Live steel is too dangerous. I will permit you tourney swords, with blunted edges. Joffrey said nothing, but a man strange to Arya, a tall knight with black hair and burn scars on his face, pushed forward in front of the prince. This is your prince. Who are you to tell him he may not have an edge on his sword, ser?" He is described as " a man strange to Arya". Hello the Stranger? He even names his horse this. And of course anybody whom has read AFFC knows that " The Stranger" is the god she prays to. Foreshadowing is key when looking at GRRM long games. I'm not really sold on the references to the Stranger being a sign that he's a faceless man. If we wanted to posit a connection between the Hound and Arya's worship of Death/the Stranger, I think it would make more sense to say that he was one of the many factors that made death a prominent enough part of Arya's world for it to become the god she worships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hos the Hostage Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Clegane is a half faceless man, that's all about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickdt Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 And his horse is a god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cladinator Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Wrong! I thought it was pretty obvious that he was a White Walker. And the son of Coldhands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Meliora Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Tyrion must also be a FM, since he feels drawn to the Stranger, as well. I mean...it's an interesting theory, I suppose, but who would Sandor's target be that he's been in this disguise for 15+ years, at least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chequered Raven Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Clegane is a half faceless man, that's all about it. :-) made my day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Reaper oOo Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 that's some strong castle forged tinfoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDanceWithFlagons Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 that's some strong castle forged tinfoil.castle forged tinfoil. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Obama Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Yes he is, H'gar was sent to kill him while in King Landing, but got caught. H'gar then pondered whether he should go back, but decided not to. Sandor brought dishonor to the Faceless Men's organization, but karma caught up with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cladinator Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Yes he is, H'gar was sent to kill him while in King Landing, but got caught. H'gar then pondered whether he should go back, but decided not to. Sandor brought dishonor to the Faceless Men's organization, but karma caught up with him. Are you being serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Obama Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Are you being serious?Lol, of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cladinator Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Lol, of course not. You never know around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of the North Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I kind of like it in "taken literally" sense. Although, as has been mentioned, Sandor would literally only be a half-faceless man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Obama Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 You never know around here.That's true, mate. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommander_Samwell Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Yeah it true, Sandor is in fact a faceless man... because it was burnt off by his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Madam Mim Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 So the evidence that Sandor could be a faceless man is...because he knows Arya? Well goodness lets not stop there then! Gendry, Lommy, Hot Pie must also be dangerous assassins on a mission to destroy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Meliora Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 So the evidence that Sandor could be a faceless man is...because he knows Arya? Well goodness lets not stop there then! Gendry, Lommy, Hot Pie must also be dangerous assassins on a mission to destroy. Hot Pie is obviously the Kindly Man. He's the real leader of the FM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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