Will Tyrion Meet the Dragons While Dany is Away?

[FirstofHerName]

First time poster, long time stalker, but I've been starting to think about the impending meeting of Daenerys and Tyrion. I'm at a bar alone drankin so hear me out.

Many believe Tyrion to be a dragonrider and whether that is the case or not, it seems like he will certainly be meeting the dragons (Viserion and Rheagal) one way or another-- as a rider, food, or anything else, soon. Lately I've been starting to think about how this is going to play out with Dany, given that she has seemingly bonded with Drogon (assuming she survives the meeting with the khalasaar), but being gone.

(Small note: I do find it interesting that the dragons took a liking to Brown Ben, who Tyrion is currently allied with. What if Brown Ben introduces them?)

Many suspect Dany will head to Vaes Dothrak to come full circle with her being Khaleesi yada yada yada, and given that Drogon apparently has no interest in returning to Mereen, I think it will be some time before she gets back there. Just given the circumstances of her situation, I feel like Tyrion will meet the (loose) dragons while she is on her existential adventure. Let's just say he is a dragon rider, secret Targ or not, how do you think Dany would react if she returned and he had bonded with Rheagal, or more likely, Viserion?

With knowing her character, her driving forces, and Tyrion's tendency to run his mouth, I would assume she would immediately want him executed, but given time he would talk his way into her good graces and show her how valuable he could be in her conquest of Westeros. However, how do you think she would react if the infamous brother of the infamous man who betrayed and murdered her father had bonded with/stolen one of her dragons? Would she be softer with him given she trusts their instincts? Would she be furious? Sad? How would she react to Tyrion?

Given one step further than that, the war of Mereen is happening in like 2 seconds in the books. She's not going to be back for this epic battle. Just for shits and giggles, what if Tryion, someone who has read a lot about dragons (and may, MAYYYYY be targ) managed to meet one of them? What if he managed to use them (or help someone else) as weapons of war as the Valyrian ancestors so often did? What if Dany returned and Tyrion is the savior of her people/cause/whatever she's doing in Mereen and bonded to her dragon?

IMO, I think Tyrion has a solid chance to be a dragonrider, and I've always just assumed it would just...happen... but with the timing and the war and the khalasaar I'm just wondering what is going to go down with the dragons and Tyrion and Daenerys in this war. I just don't see it playing out that her "children" would have no part to play at all in her cause. YA FEEL.

Even if none of this happened but the dragons simply didn't hate Tyrion and were like "ey yo ma, this guy's mad chill" and he WASN'T a rider, how do you think Dany would respond to him? And how do you think the fact that she has bonded with Drogon will interact with her relationship with Rheagal and Viserion?

I just can't stop thinking about this.

[Ice Turtle]

Welcome to the forum!

I agree that Tyrion will most likely meet Dany's dragons while Dany is away, but I have a feeling that he will go with them to Westeros before she will ever return. IMO Tyrion will be the one to give Aegon dragon/s for the next dance.

[Kyll.Ing.]

At least, I'm pretty sure that he'll see them, if only from a distance,

since a pre-released chapter already describes him doing just that.

[The Blessed]

Welcome to the forum!

I agree that Tyrion will most likely meet Dany's dragons while Dany is away, but I have a feeling that he will go with them to Westeros before she will ever return. IMO Tyrion will be the one to give Aegon dragon/s for the next dance.

This.

It is inevitable that Tyrion and Varys will face off given how much they worked together while being suspicious of each other during Clash. The battle of Titans, as far as wits go.

[Tyshrek_Lannister]

Tyrion may see the dragons, but discounting any secret targ bs, there's no reason he wouldn't just be eaten. I think a battle would drive the dragons crazy, and there is a very particular way in which they'd have to be controlled to stop total destruction. I don't think Tyrion would be willing to do this, so he'd probably just spend the whole time hiding under Yezzan's fat rolls.

It is inevitable that Tyrion and Varys will face off given how much they worked together while being suspicious of each other during Clash. The battle of Titans, as far as wits go.

No, Varys thinks very highly of Tyrion, and their goals seem to be able to coexist, if not cooperate. Varys vs Littlefinger is what I think is going to come to a conclusion in twos.

[Razha]

Well, GRRM said that Danny and Tyrion are apart for the most of the TWOW (though their path will intersect in a way..)

So given that Tyrion is in/around Mereen in the beginning of TWOW there is a big chance he meets Rhaegal or Viserion or both - but this might be just a fleeting glimpse of them doing nasty things during the battle...

I think all 3 dragons will be split between the differet factions, Drogon is already with Danny, one of the remaining Dragons will be probably controlled by Victarion and/or Euron, while another might finish with a different team.

Meaybe the Ironborn will get both Viserion and Rheagal to Westeros and the Dragons will be split there

Or maybe there is a storm on the way back and only one of them reaches the intended destination, while the other wonders to a trotally different place..

My slightly speculative theory is that one of them, probably Rheagal will be bound by dragon horn to Victarion or Euron, but Viserion might be wounded and keptured by team Tattered Prince / Tyrion.

Tyrion has promissed Pentos to Tattered Prince. Having just a young dragon (probably without a rider) and a small army is not enough for tattered Prince to take Pentos by force. And even if he does - he hardly need Tyrion for that.

My crackpot theory is that Tyrion will offer Tattered Prince to give him control over pentos without any military action - he will simply negotiate with Illyrio and offer exchange - a dragon for Pentos. Well Illyrion does not need a dragon for himself but it will be a huge deal if his protege (and possibly his son!!!) fAegon gets a dragon. (It is quite possible that tattered prince knows something about Illyrio and fAefgon realationship - maybe not a complete story but enough for Tyrion to guess the truth)

SO I think that Illiryi will somehow surrender Pentos to Tattered Prince, while he, Tyrion and a dragon will sail back to westeros.

I know most people are absolutely sure that Tyrion is going to be team Danny, but I think there is a chance that at least for a while he will be team Aegon (this does not mean he wont switch sides in the future - when Danny invades westeros)

[JLE]

I think Tyrion will meet Viserion but not Rhaegal.

Evidence:

- Victarion is present with the dragon horn, and about to have it blown by a couple of people in his service (he already knows enough not to blow it himself.) That horn is gonna do SOMETHING which has an effect on at least one dragon. It may be not what Victarion intends. It may be closer to what Euron intends, from his place back in Westeros. But it will have SOME effect. You don't have a magic horn that burns its players from the inside out, and it *not* be the real thing when it comes to dragons. Working out how to use it is another matter, but it's the real thing.

- In a reading from a pre-released Tyrion chapter, the dragons are taking a part in the battle at first, and an unpredictable one: but later on, the white one (Viserion) is seen to have retreated from the battle to his lair - possibly injured by a trebuchet shot - while the green one (Rhaegal) is still flying, out near the ironborn. When the horn is blown, there is a chance that Rhaegal will hear it and be bound by it (to what master, Victarion or Euron, or indeed the horn's previous owner before Euron, is unknown), while Viserion will be safe in hiding.

- Victarion has no reason to say if Dany is not there, and indeed is believed by many in the city to be dead. With one dragon gone (Drogon), one injured (Viserion), and hugely superior naval force coming (the Volantis armada) which even Viserion believes he could not beat at sea, let alone on land, plus the fact that the city's farmland and food sources have been largely destroyed and not fully rebuilt - Victarion cannot even feed his men should he choose to stay: besides, if he stays, plague will already be in the city, because the corpses have been flung over the walls. Thus Victarion dare not stay.

- So, even if he wins the battle (as I suspect he will), Victarion has to leave shortly after he arrives - without Dany. If the horn controls no dragons for the ironborn (whether Victarion or Euron becomes the dragonmaster), then the whole ironborn plot arc achieves nothing in the long run. Therefore, when the horn is sounded, at least one dragon must be controlled by an ironborn master, for them to have any relevance to the plot - and, since Victarion is there, this will win the battle for Victarion (I suspect Barristan will die either to Victarion, or Rhaegal under Victarion's control, as a measure of revenge for Barristan's part when Robert and Stannis smashed the ironborn on sea and land.)

- And this would seem to be the best Victarion can get: therefore, with Viserion hurt or fled, Drogon and Dany absent, and himself unable to stay, Victarion if he is still alive will head straight home again, with what remains of his men.

- There is also the foreshadowing: Tyrion, playing a game of cyvasse that is interrupted when the pieces get knocked over, picks up and wipes clean a blood-specked white dragon piece. Viserion, the white dragon, is the one most likely to remain in the city after Victarion departs. And Tyrion has a natural sympathy for injured creatures, and Viserion was always the most friendly of the three dragons. Plus Tyrion is allied with Brown Ben Plumm, and Viserion already likes Plumm (whether or not his "drop of dragon blood" proves of any significance, whether one or two drops. (PS. I wonder if a Plumm has subsequently been considered noble enough to marry into the Lannisters?)

- Dany, meanwhile, has unfinished business with the Dothraki. Even if she takes control of Jhaqo's khalasar, it will be many days before they can return to Meereen, at the speed of a trotting horse, not a flying dragon. In any case, she is more likely to turn on Vaes Dothrak first, which will delay her further. And if she gets back to Meereen, it will be at the head of a horde of Dothraki... who will have as much problem as the other invaders in the city, with famine and plague. With Victarion gone, the Ghiscari / Yunkai'i ships sunk (by Victarion's people), and the Volantene fleet will have had the same fate - if Victarion and his newly-controlled dragon do not smash them up as they meet him coming in the opposite direction (Victarion now CAN beat the Volantenes - a dragon breathing fire against sails of cloth and ships of wood), then they too will arrive, besiege the city, suffer the same problems of famine and plague, and have to turn for home at once - any that choose to defect to Dany's side will end up sharing Meereen's fate.)

- The result being? When she finally gets to Meereen (and finally meets Tyrion), she will have no ships, a harbour choked with smoking half-sunken wrecks, too many mouths to feed, no food anywhere, and no way to transport them to anywhere except Yunkai which has also lost its fleet. The only way she is coming to Westeros is alone, and without an army, flying on dragon-back.

[King Hodor IV]

I think Tyrion will encounter Viserion in his third or fourth chapter. Viserion has been near him on the pyramid, and I think Tyrion will have a special moment of realization with the dragon and might ride him.