the storm king returns Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Although I am not a fan of any of the Lannisters besides Kevin and Gerrion I do have a soft spot for Cercies two youngest children, they both seem to be sweet and innocent with kind hearts and personally believe Tommon would make a great King in terme of showing effection to the small folk of Westeros. Do any of you think the two of them have a chance at surviving the series? I think they will, Myrcella will marry Trystane Martell regardless of her being a bastard, and I think Tommon will be legitimised by the future King of Westeros because Jamie sacrifices himself for the realm and requests casterly rock go to Tommon Lannister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 No chance. Dreadful things are done to royal infants in Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 No, they won't survive. Cersei's prophecy says they will all die. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I think they won't. I wish I could say otherwise - as they are completely innocent and sweet kids caught up in a mess which is none of their doing - but I don't see them alive at the end of the series. Especially Tommen as king, which has 0% of happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDrunkenDornishman Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Gold will be their crowns and gold their shrouds. They will probably be killed and wrapped in gold cloaks, as the Targaryen children were wrapped in Lannister cloaks.Perhaps the city watch will turn on them to side with Aegon, and feel the need to show their loyalty the same way Tywin did at the end of Robert's Rebellion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WightsNatch Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Gold will be their crowns and gold their shrouds. They will probably be killed and wrapped in gold cloaks, as the Targaryen children were wrapped in Lannister cloaks.Perhaps the city watch will turn on them to side with Aegon, and feel the need to show their loyalty the same way Tywin did at the end of Robert's Rebellion?I hadn't considered that. The gold cloaks to cover their corpses. Sounds plausible to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Carnahan Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Doubt it, the valonquar prophecy seems kind of adamant about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joffrey fan Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Tommen is doomed for sure. Myrcella might already be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickonKITN Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Not a chance. When the dragons dance, the realm bleeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddwyn Lannistark Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 No, I fear not. That doomed prophecy Cersei was told when she was 10 so far has a eerily perfect track record. She will live to see all of her children (all the bastard twincest kids she had with Jaime, plus the one trueborn son she had with Robert who died in the womb) die before her own death at the hands of her "little brother" (which, like many of you, I think is her younger twin brother Jaime, not her younger half-brother Tyrion). This whole saga (books/tv) is so deadly unfriendly to children, isn't it? :crying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 They aren't Waters. In the very remote and unlike chance that they survive and Jaime acknowledges them as his children, they would be probably Hill if he takes them with him to CR. Or Lannisters if he marries Cersei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I noted that I agree Myrcella and Tommen will not live to see the end of the series, but I believe citing prophecy is probably the feeblest reason for such belief. We're talking about the world where prophecies got subverted left and right, are too vague, are intentionally or unintentionally misleading or are simply wrong. MMD prophesied that Dany is barren, yet most of us think she was pregnant as miscarried in her last DWD chapter. Mel beliefs that Stannis is AAR, yet it's plain she is wrong. Rhaegar thought his kids were three-headed dragon, and we all know how that turned out. Will Maggi's prophecy turned out to be correct - I don't know. But we should not unconditionally believe it and base our predictions wrt Tommen and Myrcella around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaraeyne Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 No, sadly. Maggy the Frog predicted them both to have an early death, and so far all of Maggy's predictions have come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddwyn Lannistark Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I noted that I agree Myrcella and Tommen will not live to see the end of the series, but I believe citing prophecy is probably the feeblest reason for such belief. We're talking about the world where prophecies got subverted left and right, are too vague, are intentionally or unintentionally misleading or are simply wrong. MMD prophesied that Dany is barren, yet most of us think she was pregnant as miscarried in her last DWD chapter. Mel beliefs that Stannis is AAR, yet it's plain she is wrong. Rhaegar thought his kids were three-headed dragon, and we all know how that turned out. Will Maggi's prophecy turned out to be correct - I don't know. But we should not unconditionally believe it and base our predictions wrt Tommen and Myrcella around it. As far as the gift of prophecy goes, MMD, Mel and Rhaegar all have got nothing on Maggie the Frog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 They will die children of Robert Baratheon. Gold will be their crowns, gold will be their shrouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 As far as the gift of prophecy goes, MMD, Mel and Rhaegar all have got nothing on Maggie the Frog.I don't even consider her stuff as prophecies. More of a correct fortune teller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I noted that I agree Myrcella and Tommen will not live to see the end of the series, but I believe citing prophecy is probably the feeblest reason for such belief. We're talking about the world where prophecies got subverted left and right, are too vague, are intentionally or unintentionally misleading or are simply wrong. MMD prophesied that Dany is barren, yet most of us think she was pregnant as miscarried in her last DWD chapter. Mel beliefs that Stannis is AAR, yet it's plain she is wrong. Rhaegar thought his kids were three-headed dragon, and we all know how that turned out. Will Maggi's prophecy turned out to be correct - I don't know. But we should not unconditionally believe it and base our predictions wrt Tommen and Myrcella around it. I agree that prophecies can be subverted, but in Cersei's case, the prophecy she heard wasn't much as a prophecy but as a fortune-telling and her own actions are helping to fulfil it. When Maggy told Cersei that she would have three kids and the King, 16, that set the kids' destiny, as their existence and looks would cause what it would be known as the War of the Five Kings, and there is at least three factions already that want those kids death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 They aren't Waters. In the very remote and unlike chance that they survive and Jaime acknowledges them as his children, they would be probably Hill if he takes them with him to CR. Or Lannisters if he marries Cersei. They are waters, since they were born in the crownlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Oh and I think they are doomed to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 GRRM said who is on the throne will change more than once. That doesn't bode well for them. (This is where I heard that: http://www.emmys.com/video/webcast-evening-game-thrones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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